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:ONLamp: ESR: "We Don't Need the GPL Anymore"
ONLamp: ESR: "We Don't Need the GPL Anymore"
Jul 1, 2005, 16 :00 UTC (41 Talkback[s]) (9335 reads)

(Other stories by Federico Biancuzzi)

"Why did you say we don't need the GPL anymore?

"It's 2005, not 1985. We've learned a lot in the last 20 years. The fears that originally led to the reciprocity stuff in GPL are nowadays, at least in my opinion, baseless. People who do what the GPL tries to prevent (e.g., closed source forks of open source projects) wind up injuring only themselves. They trap themselves unto competing with a small in-house development group against the much larger one in the parent open source project, and failing..."

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
And this is supposed to be news?  ...   Yeah, yeah, ESR's an idiot   
Rufus Polson
Jul 1, 2005, 16:38:51
 
If this was the case, the BSDs would all ...   Nonsense re: headline.   
imric
Jul 1, 2005, 16:59:19
 
Eric Raymond played a helpful role back  ...   We don't need ESR anymore   
Joe Buck
Jul 1, 2005, 17:05:16
 
...how BSD call the GPL a punishment for ...   I always love...   
Kavey
Jul 1, 2005, 17:22:32
 
Eric Raymond gave a keynote speech about ...   Misjudging human nature   
GreyGeek
Jul 1, 2005, 17:27:36
 
While I respect ESR and his opinions I f ...   Unbelievable... ESR is 180 out on this one!   
Eric Laffoon
Jul 1, 2005, 17:49:09
 
I think the GPL is important, and I disa ...   I disagree with ESR.   
Daniel Carrera
Jul 1, 2005, 18:03:28
 
He states that the "extreme" nature of t ...   I have to disagree with ESR.   
Bob Robertson
Jul 1, 2005, 18:08:18
 
FOSS is about more than just good softwa ...   It more than just good software   
t. farly
Jul 1, 2005, 18:08:45
 
100% agreed. *Bomb voyage* [1] to Buddy- ...   Re: Yeah, yeah, ESR's an idiot   
R.L.
Jul 1, 2005, 18:52:01
 
If this was the case, the BSDs would all ...   Re: Nonsense re: headline.   
David Johnson
Jul 1, 2005, 19:08:51
 
How much TCP/IP or FTP technology has Mi ...   Re: Misjudging human nature   
David Johnson
Jul 1, 2005, 19:13:52
 
Look there's no way in Hades that ES ...   I don't believe it   
johnny
Jul 1, 2005, 19:18:07
 
 > Suppose all FOSS was BSD and we want  ...   Daniel.....   
SW
Jul 1, 2005, 19:23:28
 
Fast ESR trip to irrelevance...  ...   Re: It more than just good software   
Eduardo
Jul 1, 2005, 19:25:06
 
The LGPL prevents the 'theft of code ...   What about LGPL   
Rob
Jul 1, 2005, 19:34:16
 
Who cares if it grows fast as long as it ...   Its not about fast growth - it's about freedom   
Marc Perkel
Jul 1, 2005, 19:40:10
 
Companies that are afraid of GPL are mis ...   GPL is scary?   
Bruno
Jul 1, 2005, 19:41:43
 
I see and understand how others here hav ...   Puzzled, I am   
MadDogTMC
Jul 1, 2005, 19:56:03
 
> And this is supposed to be news? I har ...   Re: Yeah, yeah, ESR's an idiot   
Eric Laffoon
Jul 1, 2005, 21:15:38
 
The LGPL is a MUCH more reasonable copyr ...   He's Right (partly) LGPL vs. GPL   
Pramatist
Jul 1, 2005, 21:44:59
 
ESR says: "... if we really believe that ...   But the market isn't free   
Patrikios
Jul 1, 2005, 21:46:12
 
> So let me rephrase his underlying poin ...   Re: Re: Nonsense re: headline.   
Karl O. Pinc
Jul 2, 2005, 01:25:19
 
He's correct when he says that softw ...   Raymond is onto something   
rifftide
Jul 2, 2005, 01:25:19
 
I have a difficult time believing this i ...   Call the guys in the white jackets!   
David D. Huff Jr.
Jul 2, 2005, 01:34:45
 
But Red Hat doesn't release all of i ...   The depiction of Red Hat is flawed   
Karl O. Pinc
Jul 2, 2005, 01:41:24
 
> But Daniel, this would go to prove tha ...   Re: Daniel.....   
Aaron J. Seigo
Jul 2, 2005, 01:46:48
 
Linus doesn't understand it either.  ...   Re: Re: Yeah, yeah, ESR's an idiot   
Charles Hixson
Jul 2, 2005, 03:56:36
 
As much as I disagree with ESR's pos ...   Interviewer   
Vance
Jul 2, 2005, 04:07:15
 
When I first started reading about matte ...   Free vs Open Source   
blackhole
Jul 2, 2005, 05:14:11
 
Excellent feedback from all the commente ...   RMS, ESR, and Linus   
XYZ
Jul 2, 2005, 05:33:17
 
First off, welcome back! Though from you ...   Re: Daniel.....   
DDahl
Jul 2, 2005, 07:54:20
 
> I hardly think we can say he's an  ...   Re: Re: Yeah, yeah, ESR's an idiot   
R.L.
Jul 2, 2005, 10:36:00
 
> Linus doesn't understand it either ...   Re: Re: Re: Yeah, yeah, ESR's an idiot   
R.L.
Jul 2, 2005, 11:55:20
 
> He's correct when he says that sof ...   Re: Raymond is onto something   
Tony OBryan
Jul 2, 2005, 15:20:35
 
> The implication is that Red Hat is som ...   Re: The depiction of Red Hat is flawed   
Tony OBryan
Jul 2, 2005, 15:32:32
 
> ...but rather what did they take away  ...   Re: Re: Misjudging human nature   
Tony OBryan
Jul 2, 2005, 15:36:58
 
What keeps external developers contribut ...   GPL is the keystone!!!   
Joe User
Jul 3, 2005, 01:16:18
 
My first comment was flippant--I didn&#3 ...   Their own story?   
Rufus Polson
Jul 3, 2005, 02:28:54
 
Way premature, ESR! Open Source is doing ...   We're doing well because of the GPL   
Henrik R Clausen
Jul 4, 2005, 14:02:19
 
Can we live without Stallman's contr ...   Do we need ESR anymore?   
ac
Jul 4, 2005, 23:42:08
 
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