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:Bruce Perens: HP selects Debian as its "design center"
Bruce Perens: HP selects Debian as its "design center"
May 10, 2001, 16 :17 UTC (25 Talkback[s]) (15291 reads)

(Other stories by Bruce Perens)

From:    Bruce Perens <bruce@perens.com>
Subject: HP selects Debian as its "design center"
Date:   10 May 2001 00:12:41 -0700
Hi Folks,

HP has started talking publicly about this, so I'd better fill you in.

HP has announced that Debian is their "design center". In other words, Debian is the selected development platform for Linux work at HP. The target of HP's development is all LSB-compliant distributions, including Debian, Red Hat, Turbo, etc. But because of its status as the development platform, Debian works out to be "first among equals".

HP has already started vending Debian to customers, and will be offering Debian support and training. This does _not_ mean that HP will de-support other Linux distributions. HP certifies its hardware with several distributions. In our software production process, we will handle differences between Linux package formats and the package dependency tree. As LSB continues to develop, we hope to get out of certifying for individual distributions and producing variant packages. Thus, supporting LSB is now a priority for HP.

HP folks are giving various reasons for this decision, which I will attempt to reproduce below.

Why Debian for HP's development? It's the best way to get software out to all of the distributions, because Debian's process is so fair and so visible. As a non-profit, Debian is more of a partner than a competitor with other distributions. HP's own engineers can sign up as Debian developers and be granted the same privileges as anyone else. New work is available for all of the other Linux distributions to copy as soon as it's uploaded to Debian's servers. Of course, we'll continue to host projects through SourceForge, Collab.net, or our own portals. Working with Debian adds capabilities to what the web portals provide.

HP appreciates that when HP wanted to make a Linux distribution for the PA-RISC, Debian treated it as a free software collaboration rather than a business relationship, and got the distribution done in collaboration with our developers. That's the way GNU/Linux development should happen.

Why Debian from a business standpoint? The Debian Free Software Guidelines are one critical component there. For Debian, the Official version _is_ the GNU version. Thus, HP and its customers can redistribute Debian without hassles. Another important factor is that Debian accepts new packages well, and thus we'll be able to get Debian support for the things that are important to us.

Of course, HP already provides some services to help Debian out, and has some Debian developers on salary. This will only increase.

Hopefully, this announcement will make your day. It sure made mine. I had to stay out of this decision, because I am obviously prejudiced. HP management went ahead and did the right thing without me.

Thanks

Bruce


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...when will I be able to buy a HP lapto ...   Cool! But one question...   
Kent Pirkle
May 10, 2001, 16:25:51
 
This sounds like a fair and reasonable d ...   Sounds fair.   
Bastion
May 10, 2001, 16:28:39
 
IMHO, of course.

And its good to see  ...   Debian rocks!   
Brandioch Conner
May 10, 2001, 16:34:56
 
It is great to hear that one of the majo ...   Great to hear   
Claus Sørensen, Chairman of KLID
May 10, 2001, 16:44:10
 
Bruce raises an interesting point regard ...   Openness vs. business deals   
Johan Ebert
May 10, 2001, 16:50:40
 
Good choice, HP.  Debian is a wonderful  ...   Made my day!   
Rick F
May 10, 2001, 16:53:32
 
This  is great news!
Debian is the hear ...   God Bless you , Bruce Perens.   
Yaba Daba Debian
May 10, 2001, 16:55:46
 
What a refreshing contrast to the recent ...   Contrast with Caldera Announcement   
Tim Wasson
May 10, 2001, 16:57:04
 
Hope IBM decides to do the same.

I re ...   This is great news ...   
Jim Parker
May 10, 2001, 17:06:30
 
I&#39;m sure the fact that Bruce has bee ...   Re: Made my day!   
kws
May 10, 2001, 17:15:55
 

	Although I am a Slackware guy through ...   Good stuff   
JCA
May 10, 2001, 17:26:30
 
 
> One last qualm with HP: I&#39;m not ...   Re: Openness vs. business deals   
ex-streamer
May 10, 2001, 17:40:20
 
> 2. GPL license is good for businesses  ...   Re: Contrast with Caldera Announcement   
Bill
May 10, 2001, 17:54:17
 
An interesting move. Debian is definitly ...   Finally HP   
James
May 10, 2001, 18:11:28
 

Tim Wasson wrote:
"Another data point ...   Very Good Question, even better answer.   
Peguilliam
May 10, 2001, 18:13:35
 
It is nice to see it finally getting it& ...   Debian has the "Right Stuff"   
OGuin.
May 10, 2001, 18:25:59
 
Debian is a great distro, unique among m ...   Debian rocks!   
Leo
May 10, 2001, 18:28:52
 
Debian is the natural choice for hardwar ...   Debian is the natural choice for HW vendors   
Elivs
May 10, 2001, 20:32:58
 
Now I can be sure I didn&#39;t make a wr ...   Great News   
Francis
May 11, 2001, 02:15:29
 
This is a truly amazing announcement. Wh ...   Community wins   
Kite
May 11, 2001, 02:40:52
 
I will even go one step further. I have  ...   Re: Re: Contrast with Caldera Announcement   
Jurgen Defurne
May 11, 2001, 10:44:30
 
Has HP made any statements regarding the ...   Whither HP/UX?   
David L. Craig
May 11, 2001, 18:18:00
 
Has HP made any statements regarding the ...   Re: Whither HP/UX?   
David L. Craig
May 11, 2001, 18:49:10
 
Has HP made any statements regarding the ...   Re: Whither HP/UX?   
David L. Craig
May 11, 2001, 19:02:32
 
IBM is distro neutral but hasn&#39;t ado ...   Makes sense   
SM
May 12, 2001, 10:03:59
 
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