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:CNET News: Ballmer: No Sleep Lost Over Linux
CNET News: Ballmer: No Sleep Lost Over Linux
Apr 25, 2003, 14 :30 UTC (72 Talkback[s]) (12992 reads)

(Other stories by Michael Kanellos and Stephen Shankland)

"Q: Microsoft has beaten companies touting free software before. But as one of your former executives pointed out, Linux is a completely different kind of free. There is no single company promoting it. There are people voluntarily coding for it. Do these aspects change how you compete against them.

"A: We have competed with things that had no price attached with them before. There is a clear set of guideposts for adding value to customers to differentiate you from the guy who has no price or a lower price. It is a different model in the sense that there is no commercial company behind it, but I think that winds up being an advantage for us, rather than a disadvantage.

"In what respect?

"Innovation is not something that is easy to do in the kind of distributed environment that the open-source/Linux world works in. I would argue that our customers have seen a lot more innovation from us than they have seen from that community.

"Linux itself is a clone of an operating system that is 20-plus years old. That's what it is. That is what you can get today, a clone of a 20-year-old system. I'm not saying that it doesn't have some place for some customers, but that is not an innovative proposition..."

Complete Story

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The Register: Ballmer 'Fesses Up to Linux/Windows Cost FUD(Jul 17, 2002)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
Ballmer is a clone of a Microsoft CEO th ...   send in the clones!   
David McGuire
Apr 25, 2003, 14:42:59
 
He dosen't loose too much sleep beca ...   No, he sleeps on the plane   
Todd
Apr 25, 2003, 15:08:01
 
Well, only to say that:Ken Thompson and  ...   Windows NT is a (defective) clonetoo   
janfri
Apr 25, 2003, 15:08:05
 
I'm at the stage now where I can&#39 ...   no sleep lost...   
steel
Apr 25, 2003, 15:09:03
 
The Secret is Out!!!  MS Bob is actually ...   MS Bob   
Rascalson
Apr 25, 2003, 15:09:38
 
When was NT 3.1 released?And wasn't  ...   And how old is NT?   
Wol
Apr 25, 2003, 15:18:51
 
It's good to see Monkeyboy FUDding L ...   Nice.   
Art Cancro
Apr 25, 2003, 15:20:56
 
Having seen him do that monkey dance, I  ...   He's a clown   
tritone
Apr 25, 2003, 15:24:15
 
. . ., The United States is foolish to b ...   By the same logic . . .   
Bill
Apr 25, 2003, 15:31:47
 
When something works right why change? O ...   Good Design Lives Forever   
david
Apr 25, 2003, 15:33:05
 
I can't help but compare Ballmer/Gat ...   Ballmer == Aziz or Bob?   
Howard B. Golden
Apr 25, 2003, 15:35:55
 
His repetitive style of denial has been  ...   Information Minster - No Penguins in the city!   
David D. Huff Jr.
Apr 25, 2003, 15:40:43
 
Because I don't get pages in the mid ...   No sleep lost on my part either   
Adam Ashenfelter
Apr 25, 2003, 15:42:35
 
NT was not really a "clone" of VMS, more ...   Re: How old is nt?   
Joel Stone
Apr 25, 2003, 15:43:49
 
Of course, I'm implying that Linux,  ...   The rest of Ballmer's statement   
Scott Marlowe
Apr 25, 2003, 15:45:57
 
In some reports I here Steve Ballmer et. ...   Make Up Your Mind Steve....   
Nicholas Donovan
Apr 25, 2003, 15:47:27
 
Yep, Linux is a clone of the 20+ year ol ...   DUH.   
MrFoo
Apr 25, 2003, 15:50:51
 
I'm not sure which is worse...the li ...   More BS from M$   
PJ
Apr 25, 2003, 15:53:13
 
I can triple warrany you: Linux isn' ...   Mr Balmer al Sahaf   
xxx
Apr 25, 2003, 15:58:39
 
I found this comment particularly funny: ...   Blinders on? CHECK! Ears Closed? CHECK!   
Nicholas Donovan
Apr 25, 2003, 15:59:21
 
This interview contains far more than th ...   Oh no, don't even read this...   
Roger Rabbit
Apr 25, 2003, 16:01:37
 
In some reports I here Steve Ballmer et. ...   Re: Make Up Your Mind Steve....   
Jason Lee
Apr 25, 2003, 16:07:14
 
Anybody remembers Microsoft Bob? Now tha ...   Now _that_ was innovation   
MrFoo
Apr 25, 2003, 16:16:34
 
a clone of a 15 year old OS is you go ba ...   And Windows 2000 is...   
codez
Apr 25, 2003, 16:19:03
 
Comical Steve?  ...   Re: Information Minster - No Penguins in the city!   
MartinV
Apr 25, 2003, 16:24:19
 
I was quite disappointed in the mostly e ...   All the rhetoric here does not change the fact tha   
Alan W. Irwin
Apr 25, 2003, 16:24:48
 
You guys are so focussed on his `&#9 ...   Ballmer Gets Worse   
llywrch
Apr 25, 2003, 16:25:10
 
 . . ., The United States is foolish to  ...   Re: By the same logic . . .   
Charles Hixson
Apr 25, 2003, 16:29:41
 
"""It's not like IBM can support Lin ...   LOL   
just me
Apr 25, 2003, 16:35:14
 
They've lost, and they know it. It&# ...   Game Over   
John Bell
Apr 25, 2003, 16:44:14
 
> I can't help but compare Ballmer/G ...   Re: Ballmer == Aziz or Bob?   
Ummm
Apr 25, 2003, 16:46:19
 
M$ innovations (got your hand ready to c ...   i guess changing everyting ever 2 years is innovat   
yuri vil
Apr 25, 2003, 16:50:56
 
I hope he actually believes what he' ...   aight. :)   
Rob Bos
Apr 25, 2003, 16:53:15
 
Not to sound like a newbie or anything,  ...   Linux innovations   
cinder
Apr 25, 2003, 16:57:48
 
Sheesh!!!  Balmer reminds me of the Iraq ...   Heh   
Shallow Hal
Apr 25, 2003, 17:05:09
 
 "Innovation is not something that is ea ...   not innovative?!   
Seraph
Apr 25, 2003, 17:13:27
 
Hehehe.  No shouting coming from this di ...   Re: All the rhetoric here does not change the fact   
Rascalson
Apr 25, 2003, 17:18:55
 
Never underestimate the value of a court ...   observation re: Ballmer   
ac
Apr 25, 2003, 17:24:47
 
So does that mean Windows Server 2003 an ...   Re: Ballmer == Aziz or Bob?   
zaxis
Apr 25, 2003, 17:35:46
 
Is Sun involved with FreeBSD?? Since whe ...   Sun commercialized FreeBSD!!   
George
Apr 25, 2003, 17:42:48
 
Thank you for the comment, this truly ma ...   Re: send in the clones!   
Jay
Apr 25, 2003, 17:44:26
 
    DNA is a 4 billion year old system,  ...   DNA not an innovative proposition   
John Atkeson
Apr 25, 2003, 17:44:57
 
A car is nothing but a clone of a 100 ye ...   Also . . .   
Rich
Apr 25, 2003, 17:51:21
 
No Sleep Lost Over Linux; Just hair :)  ...   No Sleep Lost Over Linux; Just hair :)   
BillGates
Apr 25, 2003, 17:55:25
 
For being nothing but a clone, I sure ha ...   Ever changing   
StoutDrinker
Apr 25, 2003, 18:00:42
 
'nuff said. . .  ...   Mohammed Saeed Al-ShaBallmer   
Passacaglia
Apr 25, 2003, 19:20:35
 
Not to sound like a newbie or anything,  ...   Re: Linux innovations   
Void Main
Apr 25, 2003, 19:26:48
 
> Not to sound like a newbie or anything ...   Re: Linux innovations   
Roger Rabbit
Apr 25, 2003, 19:28:35
 
He he he, couldn't resist.  ...   Looks like he doesn't miss many meals either..   
Jimmy the Geek
Apr 25, 2003, 19:59:30
 
Let's not forget, although it is a l ...   Microsoft uses Linux?   
Thesaboteur
Apr 25, 2003, 21:25:25
 
I did not have so much laugh for a long  ...   Pretty funny subject lines   
is
Apr 25, 2003, 21:29:48
 
Hmm, I posted a URL in an earlier talkba ...   Re: Linux innovations (correction to prev post)   
Roger Rabbit
Apr 25, 2003, 21:46:18
 
It is true.  They innovated Clippy for O ...   Microsoft = Innovation   
slash
Apr 25, 2003, 21:51:18
 
I have to agree to Mr. Ballmer. Innovati ...   I have to agree to Mr. Ballmer   
sl
Apr 25, 2003, 23:06:12
 
My name is Steve Balmer and I'm an a ...   AA   
Bojan Smojver
Apr 25, 2003, 23:56:01
 
> Is Sun involved with FreeBSD?? Since w ...   Yes, Sun   
Karl
Apr 26, 2003, 01:48:38
 
Fat, balding man in his late forties que ...   Re: And how old is NT?   
brently
Apr 26, 2003, 05:20:51
 
Microsoft is selling you unfinished soft ...   Innovation: W2K3 release, but not ready!!!   
e j
Apr 26, 2003, 07:24:09
 
Hey Steve boy, what is that man, you are ...   Ouch !!!   
Sancar Saran
Apr 26, 2003, 08:16:23
 
> The reference is to how SunOS took the ...   Re: Yes, Sun   
Rainer Weikusat
Apr 26, 2003, 11:14:35
 
"Linux itself is a clone of an operating ...   And Just how old is the Light bulb???   
No Where Man
Apr 26, 2003, 14:03:38
 
NT and descendents are clones of (origin ...   More chutzpah: MS makes the only insecure clone of   
Leon Brooks
Apr 26, 2003, 14:17:37
 
Ballmer says he's losing no sleep ov ...   Worried? I'm not worried! Mommy!   
Current User
Apr 27, 2003, 00:37:05
 
Balmer comes out with so many distortion ...   Iraqi minister of information   
DrXym
Apr 27, 2003, 14:00:42
 
Hey you guys, wasn't Bill Joy the gu ...   Yes Sun   
stomfi
Apr 28, 2003, 05:33:05
 
Unix solves the problem of delivering co ...   everybody is missing the point   
geoff lane
Apr 28, 2003, 07:14:52
 
Well, ok, if you're going to argue t ...   Innovative...   
flinkflonk
Apr 28, 2003, 08:32:45
 
And thank God that Edison and the Wright ...   Re: And Just how old is the Light bulb??&#   
Wol
Apr 28, 2003, 09:00:37
 
Good one and so you are so right Todd !  ...   Re: No, he sleeps on the plane   
Dom
Apr 28, 2003, 12:47:23
 
... "still believes that Linux is qualit ...   Linux qualitatively different   
Dom
Apr 28, 2003, 12:53:02
 
"Microsft will roast the Penguin stomach ...   Steve Al Ballmer informs   
Peter
Apr 28, 2003, 14:00:42
 
 And the Wright brothers were not the fi ...   Re: Re: And Just how old is the Light bulb?   
Clark
Apr 28, 2003, 22:30:28
 
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