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:USA Today: Gates on Linux
USA Today: Gates on Linux
Jun 30, 2003, 14 :00 UTC (85 Talkback[s]) (17583 reads)
(Other stories by H. Darr Beiser)

[ Thanks to Cory for this link. ]

"USA TODAY: There seems to be some worry at Microsoft about Linux and some of these Web-based things like Sim Desk that have popped up. Houston, Munich, and Beijing have all been considering using Linux-based products rather than going through Microsoft. How much of this is a concern?

"Bill Gates: Well those are our current competitors. I mean, it's no different than in the past people used [IBM's operating system] OS/2.

"USA TODAY: Nobody used OS/2.

"BG: Are you kidding? I mean, let's be serious. That was IBM, a company 15 times our size. Name a bank that didn't use OS/2. OS/2 was IBM's product, and the IBM army marched behind that product. People always think today's competition is somehow different and unique in some way. Let's be serious. I mean, we've had to bet the company many times on big technological advances..."

Complete Story

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
The thought that somewhere there might b ...   Informed decision?   
John Meadows
Jun 30, 2003, 14:24:13  
This is one of the reasons that the GPL ...   He's right -- sort of   
Charles Hixson
Jun 30, 2003, 14:24:22  
Bill, you've made billions, and are ...   Haircut   
anonymous
Jun 30, 2003, 14:29:40  
He really, genuinely seems to believe hi ...   Scary...   
Jason Greenwood
Jun 30, 2003, 14:30:31  
...and the tactics that worked against O ...   Not any less threatening, either...   
Colin Mattoon
Jun 30, 2003, 14:31:56  
Bill is rewritting history. Microsoft i ...   Rewritting history   
Bill Nuxli
Jun 30, 2003, 14:32:41  
we've had to bet the company many t ...   Big Technological advances ??   
Gil Bates
Jun 30, 2003, 14:38:56  
So long as Bill can't muster any arg ...   gates no barrier   
geoff lane
Jun 30, 2003, 14:44:49  
Apparently the media is already falling ...   Bill G. Talking Points - Please Read   
Nicholas Donovan
Jun 30, 2003, 14:50:41  
Remember OS/2? How about VMS? In the l ...   Remember OS/2?   
david
Jun 30, 2003, 14:55:33  
> In an ideal world, I'd prefer BSD, ...   Amish GPL (was Re: He's right -- sort of)   
Stefan
Jun 30, 2003, 14:56:18  
Thats exactly what I want :)Linux alread ...   Keep thinking its just another OS/2   
Carl Best
Jun 30, 2003, 15:08:15  
Most of the interview was Bill being his ...   Longhorn, OS/2   
copy_chief
Jun 30, 2003, 15:22:11  
> So long as Bill can't muster any a ...   Re: gates no barrier   
Wogster
Jun 30, 2003, 15:31:53  
...should have been, "What in your view ...   The better Question...   
Cb
Jun 30, 2003, 15:33:11  
Which of the two following scenarios is ...   OSS usage in the US   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 15:38:22  
> Bill is rewritting history. Microsoft ...   Re: Rewritting history   
Daniel
Jun 30, 2003, 15:38:37  
What Mr Gates seems to have omitted is t ...   Fundamental differences between OS/2 and Linux   
Stephane Larochelle
Jun 30, 2003, 15:43:48  
.....We're actually providing even l ...   Check the words.   
Brandioch Conner
Jun 30, 2003, 15:44:20  
OS/2 didn't fail primarily because o ...   Why OS/2 failed and why Linux is different   
Anil Wang
Jun 30, 2003, 15:48:05  
Many people in the Pro-MS world do not u ...   Exactly....   
Dave Johnson
Jun 30, 2003, 15:56:08  
``He is well spoken ...'&#39 ...   Typical Gate's interview   
Richard N. Turner
Jun 30, 2003, 16:00:31  
I'm curious how much of Window's ...   How much MS growth is due to lack licensing inforc   
Dave Johnson
Jun 30, 2003, 16:04:28  
> Remember OS/2? How about VMS? In the ...   Re: Remember OS/2?   
Anil Wang
Jun 30, 2003, 16:04:43  
OS/2 was a commercial suite of applicati ...   No; Linux is different from OS/2   
Mario Miyojim
Jun 30, 2003, 16:13:33  
The fact that OS/2 had the IBM army marc ...   The death of OS/2   
Uno Engborg
Jun 30, 2003, 16:18:50  
Linux has 20 times more ACTIVE DEVELOPE ...   In short   
Shamar
Jun 30, 2003, 16:21:51  
With all the babel from MS about .Net, L ...   Don't underestimate Longhorn   
George Mitchell
Jun 30, 2003, 16:48:34  
> Remember OS/2? How about VMS? In the ...   Re: Remember OS/2?   
ac
Jun 30, 2003, 16:58:42  
M$ is not fighting Linux. M$ is fighting ...   Re: In short   
OMG
Jun 30, 2003, 16:59:28  
If Bill really truly believes this stuff ...   Bills story   
Joe User
Jun 30, 2003, 17:14:55  
> Remember OS/2? How about VMS? In the ...   Re: Remember OS/2?   
ac
Jun 30, 2003, 17:21:28  
USA TODAY: Is there a scenario by which ...   Considering MS Apps Under Linux   
John O'Hara
Jun 30, 2003, 17:25:03  
> The thought that somewhere there might ...   Re: Informed decision?   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 18:03:02  
Most of these posts have valid things to ...   OS/2 preloads?   
Rob
Jun 30, 2003, 18:11:48  
Right now the one failing with Linux on ...   Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
flacco
Jun 30, 2003, 18:14:33  
> Most of these posts have valid things ...   OS/2 and Linux ( EduLinux )   
Stephane Larochelle
Jun 30, 2003, 18:26:09  
Interesting that microsoft has been stuc ...   TCO   
codeboy
Jun 30, 2003, 18:28:47  
I like this scenario more:Scenario COSS ...   Re: OSS usage in the US   
Grishnakh
Jun 30, 2003, 18:29:09  
> USA TODAY: Is there a scenario by whic ...   Re: Considering MS Apps Under Linux   
Anil Wang
Jun 30, 2003, 18:32:18  
> Actually VMS decendants exists today, ...   Re: Re: Remember OS/2?   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 18:32:44  
"IBM was just as subject to Microsoft&#3 ...   Re: OS/2 preloads?   
chemicalscum
Jun 30, 2003, 18:34:33  
> So where does this leave you in a coup ...   Re: The death of OS/2   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 18:37:49  
> Desktop database client software is no ...   Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Anil Wang
Jun 30, 2003, 18:52:49  
Gates' arguments are sounding lamer ...   Keep lobbing the slow fat ones...   
ac
Jun 30, 2003, 18:56:31  
Bill Gates said: "For any project, if yo ...   Software is 3% of IT projects?   
Qwot
Jun 30, 2003, 18:56:59  
> Once key applications are embedded in ...   Re: Don't underestimate Longhorn   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 19:13:16  
I see this arguement WAY to much. It&#3 ...   Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Kavey
Jun 30, 2003, 19:17:29  
>> M$ is not fighting Linux. M$ is fight ...   Re: Re: In short   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 19:45:24  
> The bright star in this whole picture ...   Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 20:03:58  
"USA TODAY: Is there a scenario by which ...   Microsoft will go LINUX!!!   
G3ckoG33k
Jun 30, 2003, 20:18:10  
> I like this scenario more:> Scenario C ...   Re: Re: OSS usage in the US   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 20:19:29  
Excellent post :-) ...   Re: Keep lobbing the slow fat ones...   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 20:38:05  
> How much easier do you think it would ...   Re: Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 20:58:52  
> Bill Gates said: "For any project, if ...   Re: Software is 3% of IT projects?   
James
Jun 30, 2003, 21:54:09  
> Where do they get this number? [...] M ...   Re: Re: Software is 3% of IT projects?   
Flash
Jun 30, 2003, 23:03:53  
off course he has to deny the serious th ...   I wish Gate really thinks that way   
haoviet
Jun 30, 2003, 23:07:19  
> > The bright star in this whole pictur ...   Re: Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Tony
Jun 30, 2003, 23:25:41  
> I've travelled overseas to the asi ...   Re: Re: Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Flash
Jul 1, 2003, 00:11:43  
This is no attack... far from it ! But I ...   Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
victor
Jul 1, 2003, 01:24:14  
"OS/2 was IBM's product, and the IBM ...   er, why did they not take him up on this?   
AdamW
Jul 1, 2003, 01:36:44  
I don't know how many linuxers are A ...   Linux is the biggest threat to US   
Andy
Jul 1, 2003, 03:21:10  
The haircut really is shocking. I don&#3 ...   Yes, I'm afraid the haircut is the most striki   
Leon Brooks
Jul 1, 2003, 03:33:49  
Bill Gates said: "For any project, if y ...   Re: Software is 3% of IT projects?   
Leon Brooks
Jul 1, 2003, 03:38:27  
"Are you kidding? I mean, let's be s ...   Are you kidding? I mean, let's be serious.   
John
Jul 1, 2003, 03:41:40  
Yes Bill, I do remember OS2. You taugh ...   Deer in headlights   
CmdrPenquino
Jul 1, 2003, 04:21:29  
> I am not sure about sabotaging the dev ...   Re: Re: Rewritting history   
hs
Jul 1, 2003, 04:45:57  
I know I'm just a lowly editor but.. ...   Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
E. A. Zen
Jul 1, 2003, 05:15:08  
> Let me be specific, if you compare OS/ ...   Re: Why OS/2 failed and why Linux is different   
hs
Jul 1, 2003, 05:49:00  
> OS/2 was a commercial suite of applica ...   Re: No; Linux is different from OS/2   
hs
Jul 1, 2003, 06:04:30  
It's the deployments in governments, ...   Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Bojan Smojver
Jul 1, 2003, 07:31:13  
Its funny how everybody seems to think t ...   Fair comparison.   
sune
Jul 1, 2003, 08:19:51  
> I ask Linux people all the time "When ...   Re: Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
aRTee
Jul 1, 2003, 10:58:39  
EEEEEK! Hey Bill, don't look now, b ...   re: haircut   
Spiderbaby1958
Jul 1, 2003, 12:39:16  
Oh sure he's right. Remember all th ...   Yep...Just like OS/2   
Spiderbaby1958
Jul 1, 2003, 12:50:25  
> I know I'm just a lowly editor but ...   Re: Re: Linux does NOT have a lock yet   
Flash
Jul 1, 2003, 13:58:49  
Hey I almost forgot: Remember when Walm ...   Just like OS/2 continued   
Spiderbaby1958
Jul 1, 2003, 14:00:24  
> EEEEEK! Hey Bill, don't look now, ...   Re: re: haircut   
Flash
Jul 1, 2003, 14:09:21  
M$ did not kill OS/2...IBM killed OS/2. ...   OS/2   
PJ
Jul 1, 2003, 14:14:45  
Bill's shtick flies in the face of M ...   Gates:   
spiderbaby1958
Jul 1, 2003, 17:14:14  
"I don't know how many linuxers are ...   RE: Linux is the biggest threat to US   
Spiderbaby1958
Jul 1, 2003, 17:45:39  
Okay, I figured out the haircut! It&#39 ...   Figured out the haircut   
Spiderbaby1958
Jul 1, 2003, 20:00:35  
> Okay, I figured out the haircut! It&# ...   Re: Figured out the haircut   
Flash
Jul 1, 2003, 21:05:01  
Bill is rewritting history. Microsoft ...   Re: Rewritting history   
SM
Jul 2, 2003, 00:11:15  
Question is: 1. Would you rather have L ...   Re: RE: Linux is the biggest threat to US   
inverter
Jul 3, 2003, 17:01:51  
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