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IBM, Industry Respond to New SCO Threats
Jul 22, 2003, 13 :00 UTC (77 Talkback[s]) (37071 reads)

(Other stories by Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols)

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
Contributing Writer

It's no longer just about IBM. SCO has now officially declared war on all business Linux users.

SCO announced today that all commercial Linux 2.4 and higher users must buy a UnixWare 7.1.3 license tailored to support run-time, binary use of Linux for all business uses or face the possibility of a law suit. In a company agrees to buy this license, SCO will allow them to continue to use Linux in a run-only, binary format and will not seek damages from the Linux customers against their past copyright violations for their use of Linux.

Specifically, Darl McBride, SCO's president and CEO, says that, "For several months, SCO has focused primarily on IBM's alleged Unix contract violations and misappropriation of Unix source code," but starting "Today, we're stating that the alleged actions of IBM and others have caused customers to use a tainted product at SCO's expense. With more than 2.4 million Linux servers running our software, and thousands more running Linux every day, we expect SCO to be compensated for the benefits realized by tens of thousands of customers."

The copyright claim is an important one. As has been expected, since it became clear that while SCO had obtained Unix's intellectual property (IP) rights from Novell it had never registered the Unix copyrights, SCO finally officially registered their US copyright to its Unix System V source code to further its Unix intellectual property claims. With this move, David Boies, SCO's lead attorney, says, SCO can now sue companies that use Linux, which refuse SCO's offer.

As he explained during the press conference, this means that if you use any Linux based on a 2.4 or higher kernel-SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake or whatever-in a business, you are violating SCO's copyright rights and you, as an end-user are liable for damages.

SCO isn't blaming Linus Torvalds for this situation. But, McBride said, "We aren't saying he created the problem, but now he's inherited it." Thus, seemingly opening the door a little wider for the possibility of legal action against Torvalds.

Specifically, McBride claimed hundreds of files had been stolen from Unix and placed in Linux to give version 2.4 and above its advanced enterprise level capabilities such as Symmetric Multi-Processing (SMP) and Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA).

Indeed, McBride claims that "If all the copied code was removed, Linux would have little multiprocessing capability and no enterprise capability." He went on to say that there had been literal copying of SCO's code, literal copying of SCO Unix derived code, and nominal copying of code that had been clearly derived from SCO's copyrighted Unix.

Of course, SCO has not proved yet in any court of law that there has been in fact any copying or copyright violation in Linux. As Trink Guarino, Director of IBM Media Relations, says, "IBM is not aware of any Unix System V Code in Linux. SCO needs to openly show this code before anyone can assess their claim. SCO seems to be asking customers to pay for a license based on allegations, not facts."

Joseph Eckert, SuSE's VP of Corporate Communications, couldn't agree more. "SCO still needs to prove the copyright infringements at least once--don't they?"

Leigh Day, Red Hat spokesperson, says that, "SCO still hasn't contacted us and while we've asked them to show us the offending source code, they haven't shown us any source code. So, Red Hat continues to maintain that we are not in violation of any IP rights. Red Hat Linux falls completely under the GPL and SCO's license is simply not necessary for our customers."

SCO's CEO, Darl McBride, response to such arguments is that those who have seen the code samples provided by SCO in their Linden, Utah offices, under a strict non-disclosure agreement (NDA) which prevents the viewers from describing exactly what they've seen, believe that there are intellectual property problems with Linux and are seeking a way to continue to use Linux while honoring SCO's IP rights. McBride did not, however, cite any companies which agreed with this claim.

SCO's answer to these hypothetical corporate customers is to offer them the right to use Linux, as a binary, with the purchase of a UnixWare license. A UnixWare Business Edition license currently runs $1,399, while the UnixWare Enterprise Edition, which includes 4-way SMP support, costs $4,999.

SCO is not ready to announce pricing for the Linux version, but McBride did say that SCO would be trying to make up for revenues lost by UnixWare to Linux and that pricing would be based both on volume purchases and upon the number of Linux servers a company is currently using.

Legally Speaking

Eben Moglen, professor of law at Columbia University and general counsel to the Free Software Foundation (FSF), though says there is absolutely no reason for anyone to buy SCO's license. "Users don't need a license to use copyrighted programs anymore than they need to pay a copyright fee before reading Gone with the Wind. If you copy, distribute, or modify copyrighted material, then you can be in copyright violation."

But, he adds, if a distributor, such as Debian, were to agree to SCO's license, they would then be in violation of section 7 of the Gnu General Public License (GPL). This section specifies that if legal "conditions are imposed... that contradict the conditions of this License" you cannot distribute GPL protected free software.

Boies claims, however, that the proposed SCO license refers only to Linux binaries and not the source code, which is protected by the GPL. Moglen, while respecting Boies' ability as a lawyer, finds it hard to see how this could be the case and that, in any case, he doesn't see why any corporate customer should pay SCO for a UnixWare license to continue to use Linux.

"Even if SCO IP is in the Linux kernel, which has not been proved, an end-user could still not be held responsible for the copyright violation," Moglen argued.

McBride insists though that IBM, in particular, has made the end-users vulnerable to legal actions based on copyright. Neither he, nor Boies, explained though exactly how this worked.

Curiously, though, SCO is not, at this time, going after Linux distributors--nor did they suggest that they would be adding copyright infringement to their IBM lawsuit. Moglen thinks that "SCO is simply trying to scare people about using free software by making irresponsible comments." He notes that, until recently, SCO itself was distributing the code they now claim violated their own copyrights.

One reason why SCO may be hesitating about going after the Linux distributors, even though they would be the natural target for copyright violations since they've actively engaged in copying and distributing Linux source code may be because, SCO is still in the Linux distribution business.

As Paula Hunter, general manager of UnitedLinux, notes, "UnitedLinux LLC is a private company equally owned by the four partners. These are Conectiva, the SCO Group, SuSE Linux and Turbolinux. And, "SCO is still a member of UnitedLinux."

Still, Moglen believes that, "If SCO really wishes to enforce these claimed copyright rights. I would suggest that they sue a Linux distributor. If the FSF distributed Linux, I would welcome such a lawsuit." And, speaking for himself and not the FSF, "I have renewed my offer to assist free software developers who may feel the need for legal assistance" because of SCO's recent actions.

As for the FSF itself, it will continue to support the cause of free software and the legal rights of developers to create free software.

And as for SCO, McBride says that while the bulk of SCO workers are still in software development, SCO's revenues will rise with their IP claims and that the company will be announcing revised financial forecasts next month.

Regardless of how the current court case against IBM turn out, or any future copyright based cases, SCO's IP claims are helping its bottom line and its stock price jumped over 10% to a 52-week high of $13.32 on the news of SCO's copyright claims and proposed remedy for Linux customers who may, or may not, be violating them.

Related Stories:
internetnews.com: SCO Escalates Linux Battle(Jul 21, 2003)
InfoWorld: SCO Readies New Linux Licensing Program(Jul 21, 2003)
Raleigh News & Observer: Lawsuit Casts Cloud Over Red Hat(Jul 16, 2003)
CNET News: Sun Expands Unix Deal with SCO(Jul 11, 2003)


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I'm really surprised that there are  ...   My Opinion   
Nicholas Holowaty
Jul 22, 2003, 13:54:26
 
Don't look for SCO to direct their l ...   Target: Debian   
g@
Jul 22, 2003, 14:19:06
 
This young Mr. McBride is really kidding ...   Pay Attention to Me! .... Not!   
Nicholas Donovan
Jul 22, 2003, 14:22:01
 
Yes I sense a large foot about to squash ...   I sense a large foot......   
Nicholas Donovan
Jul 22, 2003, 14:26:40
 
Need to get a court injunction agains&#3 ...   Need court injunction.   
g
Jul 22, 2003, 14:38:35
 
With reading this and other IP-actions h ...   A new law principle?   
Torsten Zirzlaff
Jul 22, 2003, 14:42:04
 
We just need a tax on stock-market trans ...   Transaction Tax   
csbruce
Jul 22, 2003, 14:50:22
 
`SCO's IP claims are helping its ...   investing blindly   
Wendell Cochran
Jul 22, 2003, 14:52:54
 
Interestingly enough, IBM still offers A ...   Consider IBM / AIX   
Brent
Jul 22, 2003, 15:12:44
 
SCO are not going after the vendors beca ...   Why they are not going after vendors   
chemicalscum
Jul 22, 2003, 15:18:36
 
> > Yes I sense a large foot about to sq ...   Re: I sense a large foot......   
DrStupid
Jul 22, 2003, 15:24:59
 
SCO can't license the binary.The onl ...   SCO usurps rights of contributors   
W in B-More Town
Jul 22, 2003, 15:28:23
 
Can a class action suit be made against  ...   Pust the market the other way   
DaveT
Jul 22, 2003, 15:33:08
 
RICO stands for Racketeer Influenced Cor ...   Definition of RICO   
superdude
Jul 22, 2003, 15:41:18
 
Don't look for SCO to direct their l ...   Re: Target: Debian   
I R A Darth Aggie
Jul 22, 2003, 15:44:56
 
> We just need a tax on stock-market tra ...   Re: Transaction Tax   
Daniel
Jul 22, 2003, 15:53:43
 
"Users don't need a license to use c ...   I don't understand Moglen's logic   
joe blow
Jul 22, 2003, 16:06:34
 
Hey,  I've personally made money by  ...   Re: Re: Transaction Tax   
shorty
Jul 22, 2003, 16:10:41
 
Section 12 of the GPL also deals with li ...   Section 12 GPL   
Fred
Jul 22, 2003, 16:14:02
 
Daniel wrote:"I favour a 5% tax on stock ...   Long term capital gains   
Alan Krause
Jul 22, 2003, 16:24:33
 
> Boies claims, however, that the propos ...   Flaming garbage   
Eric Laffoon
Jul 22, 2003, 16:27:19
 
I just have a simple question, so please ...   SCO Suit   
Le Taggs
Jul 22, 2003, 16:27:25
 
> Aren't the end users essentially & ...   Re: I don't understand Moglen's logic   
Sam
Jul 22, 2003, 16:31:54
 
> `SCO's IP claims are helping i ...   Re: investing blindly   
Rufus Polson
Jul 22, 2003, 16:36:35
 
They can sue users based on copyrights.  ...   Re: Why they are not going after vendors   
Rafael J.
Jul 22, 2003, 16:40:13
 
No because its free anyway! If I give yo ...   Re: I don't understand Moglen's logic   
Colin
Jul 22, 2003, 16:49:42
 
Microsoft and Sun have their fingerprint ...   Who has the most to loose   
Mark Chastain
Jul 22, 2003, 16:50:16
 
> Aren't the end users essentially & ...   Re: I don't understand Moglen's logic   
Rufus Polson
Jul 22, 2003, 16:51:56
 
Look at all the crap Coporate America ha ...   This is why open source has to prevail   
Eric Brown
Jul 22, 2003, 16:56:59
 
Next time someone says "Bill Gates might ...   take note   
codez
Jul 22, 2003, 16:57:21
 
The presumption of innocence applies onl ...   Re: A new law principle?   
voiceofreason
Jul 22, 2003, 17:18:27
 
> Don't look for SCO to direct their ...   Re: Target: Debian   
vic
Jul 22, 2003, 17:20:32
 
Well, OK, there are myriad such things.B ...   What makes it really silly   
Rufus Polson
Jul 22, 2003, 17:23:05
 
It is time for the linux community to po ...   Class action agains SCO   
George
Jul 22, 2003, 17:27:28
 
Things aren't that complicated after ...   It isn't that complicated after all   
loki
Jul 22, 2003, 17:39:43
 
A true story:Once upon a time, there was ...   Bre-X   
Tony Lai
Jul 22, 2003, 17:42:51
 
I've never heard this one before. Wh ...   What Kind of Logic Is This?   
C. Whitman
Jul 22, 2003, 17:43:19
 
Don't look for SCO to direct their l ...   Re: Target: Debian   
Jeff
Jul 22, 2003, 17:45:11
 
If they do, it goes to show their true m ...   Re: Target: Debian   
Mark C
Jul 22, 2003, 17:49:12
 
David Boies would be the perfect Dictato ...   Boies   
Barney
Jul 22, 2003, 17:51:45
 
> Holy bat spit rat man! This is the mos ...   Re: Flaming garbage   
Anil Wang
Jul 22, 2003, 17:54:24
 
What about your typical home user of Lin ...   What about home users of Linux?   
john
Jul 22, 2003, 17:57:54
 
And that's the point precisely!SCO i ...   Re: investing blindly   
Carlos Cesar
Jul 22, 2003, 18:10:17
 
Interestingly enough, IBM still offers A ...   Re: Consider IBM/AIX   
Stephen J
Jul 22, 2003, 18:49:40
 
SCO's actions to date are borderline ...   why not just sue sco?   
scomustpay
Jul 22, 2003, 19:03:57
 
I'm not up on Linux development, but ...   Hedging Bets   
Dan Cieslak
Jul 22, 2003, 19:13:59
 
Someone needs to seriously sue SCO on th ...   sue 'em back   
nobody
Jul 22, 2003, 19:26:43
 
So here's my theory: SCO is doing al ...   Stock price spike is the purpose?   
m
Jul 22, 2003, 19:45:28
 
> Aren't the end users essentially & ...   Re: I don't understand Moglen's logic   
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
Jul 22, 2003, 19:54:15
 
The SCO business model seems similar to  ...   M$ Business Model?   
Gary Virene
Jul 22, 2003, 20:09:38
 
> Do we allow companies to do whatever t ...   Re: why not just sue sco?   
Daniel
Jul 22, 2003, 20:12:51
 
Constrary to what Eben Moglen says, SCO  ...   FYI: SCO still distributes linux source   
Bastiaan
Jul 22, 2003, 20:21:11
 
I think what is going to happen next is  ...   Next move   
codeboy
Jul 22, 2003, 20:21:43
 
Obviously these claims like the rest of  ...   There is one true realization out of this   
Jamie Conlon
Jul 22, 2003, 20:33:18
 
> What about your typical home user of L ...   Re: What about home users of Linux?   
codez
Jul 22, 2003, 20:53:12
 
> Good god.  Who can now believe that th ...   Re: investing blindly   
flacco
Jul 22, 2003, 21:06:43
 
> Their goal is to stall linux and slow  ...   Re: There is one true realization out of this   
Cassandra
Jul 22, 2003, 21:49:07
 
All Linux users should go after McBride  ...   Call for class action suit!   
dc
Jul 22, 2003, 21:50:02
 
	On SCO and licensing linux: how bilater ...   SCO v GPL   
gumout
Jul 22, 2003, 21:59:09
 
This is really a pump-dump scan. I don&# ...   Target Google???   
Sjaak Zomer
Jul 22, 2003, 22:14:16
 
If you pay for a Unixware License, theny ...   Unixware License   
jeffrey l koehn
Jul 22, 2003, 22:25:53
 
Torsten Zirzlaff, can you kindly share w ...   To: Torsten Zirzlaff   
Chii-Shen Yang
Jul 22, 2003, 22:37:47
 
I really do not understand which law sch ...   SCO in denial, Linux users in clear, me just havin   
Bojan Smojver
Jul 22, 2003, 23:26:17
 
Boies makes his arguments and his appear ...   Re: Boies   
Cassandra
Jul 23, 2003, 00:18:05
 
At least The Three Stooges had and still ...   Re: Pay Attention to Me! .... Not!   
J. Krough
Jul 23, 2003, 02:50:00
 
> After all, you have used the copyright ...   Re: SCO in denial, Linux users in clear, me just h   
Bojan Smojver
Jul 23, 2003, 05:00:18
 
> If you pay for a Unixware License, the ...   Re: Unixware License   
Rainer Weikusat
Jul 23, 2003, 06:01:10
 
Even as you debate whether or not the SC ...   Don't forget   
Guy
Jul 23, 2003, 08:55:21
 
And where is Microsoft behind this story ...   Is there Microsoft Behind SCO???   
Giobbe
Jul 23, 2003, 09:29:33
 
I hope M$ will pay the first Unixware Li ...   M$ First   
Jaagut
Jul 23, 2003, 10:38:07
 
Okay, SCO executives are shooting themse ...   Governments and the Military use Linux and AIX   
Mad Nad
Jul 23, 2003, 14:34:29
 
> What about your typical home user of L ...   Re: What about home users of Linux?   
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
Jul 23, 2003, 17:05:01
 
Hi,I believe all governments are making  ...   All Governments should bar SCO to do business at t   
Benedict Low
Jul 24, 2003, 00:11:46
 
> > And where is Microsoft behind this s ...   Re: Is there Microsoft Behind SCO???   
neo
Jul 24, 2003, 08:01:15
 
Surely a company which has been distribu ...   Legalise   
Steve Wheeler
Jul 25, 2003, 00:45:57
 
hi,if sco think that this is a way of cr ...   Increased Profits   
Gerald
Jul 26, 2003, 20:42:34
 
1 SCO has shown there is GPL liciensed c ...   SCO Unixware GPL violations   
Norman M
Aug 3, 2003, 23:53:35
 
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