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:LinuxWorld: Is Linux Desktop-Ready Yet... Or Not?
LinuxWorld: Is Linux Desktop-Ready Yet... Or Not?
Nov 27, 2003, 11 :30 UTC (112 Talkback[s]) (26572 reads)
(Other stories by James Turner and Mark Hinkle)

"James Turner: 'Linux is nowhere near ready for the desktop'

"In the spirit of the new Linux desktop initiatives that have been announced over the last few weeks, I took another try at getting my laptop to run Linux tonight.

"I had only two criteria:

  1. "My DVD player needed to work
  2. "My SMC 802.11g card needed to work

"Well folks, I can report that Linux is as useless on an off-the-shelf laptop as it was six months ago..."

Complete Story

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OSDir: Editorial: Linux is Desktop Ready(Nov 06, 2003)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
Can it do what the vast majority of peop ...   Yes   
David
Nov 27, 2003, 12:24:05  
A Linux distribution is not designed for ...   Additionally...   
David
Nov 27, 2003, 12:36:36  
"Well folks, I can report that Linux is ...   Linux on off-the-shelf laptop   
Dave T.
Nov 27, 2003, 12:54:22  
Is Windows ready for the Server ?To try ...   ummm ...   
SteveOC
Nov 27, 2003, 13:10:47  
Particularly I'm some of those who t ...   My own experience   
Shamar
Nov 27, 2003, 13:15:33  
We are using Linux as the desktop, devel ...   Why is it working for us then?   
Roman Fietze
Nov 27, 2003, 13:35:35  
Yes. Next question?Cheers,Carlos Cesar ...   Is Linux Desktop-Ready Yet...   
Carlos Cesar
Nov 27, 2003, 13:42:14  
1) Linux is 100% ready for business use ...   Both correct.   
Shiva
Nov 27, 2003, 13:53:51  
I'm always a little suspicious of su ...   Hardware compatability.   
cheezwog
Nov 27, 2003, 14:02:20  
I must be crazy. I am doing something ...   Giving Disinformation...   
GreyGeek
Nov 27, 2003, 14:34:06  
Linux is desktop ready if the desktop / ...   Preloaded   
aRTee
Nov 27, 2003, 14:51:24  
I don't know what the problem is wit ...   what is the problem???   
LD
Nov 27, 2003, 15:53:09  
I have to say that Linux is ready for de ...   Desktop with Linux   
GH
Nov 27, 2003, 16:07:39  
Oddly, my three IBM ThinkPads (775CE, 38 ...   Laptops and GNU/Linux   
horne
Nov 27, 2003, 16:32:11  
There are two different desktops to cons ...   2 different desktops   
rm
Nov 27, 2003, 16:35:19  
The guy who was complaining about his la ...   Intentional idiocy   
Jeff Cobb
Nov 27, 2003, 17:17:16  
You are on the mark in suggesting that p ...   Dear James   
Stuart DeGraaf
Nov 27, 2003, 17:20:18  
I just wrote a text about what GNU/Linux ...   The perfect desktop ?   
Ploum
Nov 27, 2003, 17:22:36  
I thought we'd seen the last of thes ...   WTF? Did I read that right?   
Brandioch Conner
Nov 27, 2003, 17:27:01  
Ok. Here is a challenge right back at y ...   back at ya   
Joe User
Nov 27, 2003, 17:30:21  
Linux will only be ready for the desktop ...   Linux will only be ready for the desktop when.....   
Anil Wang
Nov 27, 2003, 17:57:14  
In 1995 I installed Debian on a 386-33. ...   The Wrong Question   
Bob Robertson
Nov 27, 2003, 18:32:27  
I have various video cards, internal and ...   Blame the device manufacturers   
Jim
Nov 27, 2003, 18:35:51  
I highly agree with you. It is true tha ...   I Second Your Opinion...   
James Cornell
Nov 27, 2003, 19:41:30  
A new comuter store opened here in Malmö ...   At least one shopkeeper thinks so   
Uno Engborg
Nov 27, 2003, 20:20:19  
Whether you're ready or not, Linux w ...   Ready or Not   
GaAsP
Nov 27, 2003, 21:52:45  
This is all a load of bollocks....To com ...   Let's get real here...   
Dave Harris
Nov 27, 2003, 22:25:55  
Yes of course it is, however i have one ...   yes of course it is   
alex b
Nov 27, 2003, 22:47:48  
Hi my friends!I just want to tell you th ...   piece of cake   
GMR
Nov 28, 2003, 00:27:29  
Mandrake 9.2: click K, Multimedia, MPlay ...   AOpen OpenBook 1547   
Leon Brooks
Nov 28, 2003, 01:16:48  
We've been using Linux on the deskto ...   Definitely Ready   
Mace Moneta
Nov 28, 2003, 01:17:18  
what a stupid story.go back to your wind ...   your an idiot!   
shaun
Nov 28, 2003, 01:32:08  
If you bought an off the shelf Linux Lap ...   Off the shelf   
Grahame Jordan
Nov 28, 2003, 02:01:25  
you can buy a DVD for under AUD100.porta ...   for goodness sake get a DVD player   
Xunil Ung
Nov 28, 2003, 03:13:09  
you hit the nail right in the head, that ...   Re: Dear James   
luis
Nov 28, 2003, 03:43:48  
Horne, I use Win4lin to use for ebooks a ...   Horne, use Win4lin   
Brian Hodges
Nov 28, 2003, 04:23:14  
Yup! Another one of THOSE articles. I pr ...   The age of discontent.   
Threska
Nov 28, 2003, 07:03:30  
1. DVD playback -- Funny, Windows XP DOE ...   DVD & 802.11g answered   
Charles Hill
Nov 28, 2003, 08:51:23  
I first became curious about linux last ...   my 2c   
TheDreaming
Nov 28, 2003, 09:13:10  
> packages. Free equivalents exist to mo ...   Re: Both correct.   
Hugh
Nov 28, 2003, 09:18:30  
I have used Windows 3.0, 3.1, 95, 98, 98 ...   Is Linux ready for the Desktop?   
Roy
Nov 28, 2003, 10:10:42  
The relevant question is not whether Lin ...   Ready form whom?   
Staffan Ringbom
Nov 28, 2003, 10:45:59  
Well, excuse me, but I think the followi ...   Linux on a laptop != Linux on the desktop   
RJW
Nov 28, 2003, 12:00:47  
It is not fair to say that Linux is not ...   Linux doesn't get OEM Support like Windows   
Tim Spencer
Nov 28, 2003, 13:58:14  
Perhaps I can share an actual business I ...   Yes, and no- but not for all   
Paul
Nov 28, 2003, 15:44:39  
You have to remember that windows 2000 o ...   DVDs on windows   
Joe Zasada
Nov 28, 2003, 15:51:10  
Yes of course it is, however i have one ...   Re: yes of course it is   
horne
Nov 28, 2003, 15:57:33  
Horne, I use Win4lin to use for ebooks a ...   Re: Horne, use Win4lin   
horne
Nov 28, 2003, 16:11:25  
> Linux will only be ready for the deskt ...   Re: Linux will only be ready for the desktop when.   
R.L.
Nov 28, 2003, 16:28:14  
Who is James Turner? Sounds like someon ...   Who is James Turner?   
Jim Whitehouse
Nov 28, 2003, 16:54:01  
Guess what? Not one of these devices men ...   Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
DrXym
Nov 28, 2003, 17:11:14  
DVD playback of CSS movies does not work ...   Re: Dear James   
Ken Bauer
Nov 28, 2003, 17:24:46  
for quite obvious reasons. Please, do ...   Re: Linux on a laptop != Linux on the desktop   
DrXym
Nov 28, 2003, 17:49:06  
What scanner do you have? ...   Re: my 2c   
Jim
Nov 28, 2003, 18:25:02  
Yes! Yes! Yes!Play Kurumin 2.10!http://w ...   Linux ready to desktop?   
antonio
Nov 28, 2003, 22:32:31  
Remember James when windows 3.1 was out ...   Remember When ?   
GH
Nov 28, 2003, 22:56:12  
First, let me say the author, James Turn ...   Linux on the Desktop   
paul
Nov 28, 2003, 23:10:49  
i am a non tech type but i installed man ...   Grandma Says Linux Is Ready   
br3n
Nov 28, 2003, 23:58:27  
...and write a driver or two. Or, better ...   Quit whining...   
Bojan Smojver
Nov 29, 2003, 00:22:29  
Bien sur que Linux est pret pour les des ...   Yes!!!   
yann RIVIERE
Nov 29, 2003, 00:36:07  
LT probably should consider filtering so ...   LT might want to consider...   
namae
Nov 29, 2003, 00:53:55  
I like Linux, but need more detail book( ...   Linux ready   
Gregory Okin
Nov 29, 2003, 01:42:17  
I attempted to get my mandrake 9.2 with ...   linux home desktop ok....work -well,not yet   
beartek
Nov 29, 2003, 01:56:52  
Windows XP would not pass his four point ...   I Guess Windows XP Isn't Ready for the Desktop   
C. Whitman
Nov 29, 2003, 02:39:28  
I also noticed that James Turner says, " ...   One Other Thing   
C. Whitman
Nov 29, 2003, 02:52:58  
Your problem with X not using the full r ...   Re: The Wrong Question   
C. Whitman
Nov 29, 2003, 03:07:38  
> Who is James Turner? Sounds like some ...   Re: Who is James Turner?   
James Turner
Nov 29, 2003, 07:22:01  
I have been using Linux as my desktop ma ...   Is windows ready for the desktop?   
Jimmy the Geek
Nov 29, 2003, 11:48:06  
Is there really a business need for DVD? ...   Business?   
Ed Craig
Nov 29, 2003, 11:56:05  
Only two things I can say about this nar ...   Life and Linux   
Christian Valin
Nov 29, 2003, 14:09:41  
Who is James Turner? .... Well, since ...   Re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
GreyGeek
Nov 29, 2003, 17:06:06  
Mr. Turner;On "Growing Up":Please exlain ...   Jame Turner, you cannot have it both ways   
Jeff Cobb
Nov 29, 2003, 17:20:47  
.....I have been involved in with Unix f ...   re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
Brandioch Conner
Nov 29, 2003, 17:29:17  
Well, the problem here is that this mind ...   Re: Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
Christopher
Nov 29, 2003, 18:22:14  
Mr. Linux Hater wrote:I have one word to ...   Re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
Art Cancro
Nov 29, 2003, 18:42:04  
"Well, since you asked...I have been inv ...   Re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
Abe
Nov 29, 2003, 19:25:48  
> .....The front DVD-wise was even worse ...   Re: WTF? Did I read that right?   
Wogster
Nov 29, 2003, 20:20:07  
I evaluated Linux and decided to stay wi ...   I evaluated Linux   
John
Nov 29, 2003, 23:02:34  
James,Your criteria for desktop readines ...   Desktop Readiness Moot   
Joe Almeida
Nov 30, 2003, 03:18:11  
> I evaluated Linux and decided to stay ...   Re: I evaluated Linux   
Abe
Nov 30, 2003, 05:04:07  
Apple clearly demonstrated an open sour ...   Apple Did it With BSD   
Paul Bremmer
Nov 30, 2003, 06:25:57  
> While I don't understand why a com ...   Re: Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
Simon Farnsworth
Nov 30, 2003, 15:26:15  
> I have been involved in with Unix for ...   Re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
Bill Nuxli
Nov 30, 2003, 16:52:52  
James Turner wrote:>Anyway, I tried to r ...   Re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
Alan
Nov 30, 2003, 18:47:55  
Loaded it on one laptop and NOTHING wasn ...   Worked fine on one laptop and havent tried on the   
Adragontattoo
Nov 30, 2003, 19:06:59  
Why can't manufacturers provide an o ...   Re: Re: Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
DrXym
Nov 30, 2003, 19:46:26  
> Playing DVD's, and high end games ...   Re: 2 different desktops   
Frank Eark (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Nov 30, 2003, 21:10:47  
Regarding James Turner response and seem ...   James Turner's qualifications   
porky_pig_jr
Nov 30, 2003, 22:17:53  
> S2, Id, and Epic Games. Hopefully, yo ...   Re: Re: 2 different desktops   
Norman Spector
Dec 1, 2003, 01:03:57  
> you can buy a DVD for under AUD100.> p ...   Re: for goodness sake get a DVD player   
Svartalf
Dec 1, 2003, 06:35:04  
First rule of debate. Restrict yourself ...   Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
James Turner
Dec 1, 2003, 06:51:13  
> Are these titles coming the generic Li ...   Re: Re: Re: 2 different desktops   
Frank Earl (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Dec 1, 2003, 07:02:02  
> If I can find a driver for my scanner ...   Re: my 2c   
Frank Earl (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Dec 1, 2003, 07:06:09  
> While I don't understand why a com ...   Re: Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
Frank Earl (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Dec 1, 2003, 07:19:44  
> I attempted to get my mandrake 9.2 wit ...   Re: linux home desktop ok....work -well,not yet   
Frank Earl (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Dec 1, 2003, 07:40:38  
Well, James, I didn't expect such an ...   Re: Re: Who is James Turner?   
Frank Earl (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Dec 1, 2003, 08:29:30  
. I've worked at the same company fo ...   Re: James Turner's qualifications (or lack the   
Mike R.
Dec 1, 2003, 09:05:34  
..... I was trying to have a technical d ...   re: Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
Brandioch Conner
Dec 1, 2003, 14:47:45  
It's true that some of the attacks o ...   Re: Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
C. Whitman
Dec 1, 2003, 16:29:28  
> First rule of debate. Restrict yourse ...   Re: Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
Frank Earl (a.k.a. Svartalf)
Dec 1, 2003, 16:56:24  
Actually, writing a driver for Linux is ...   Re: Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
C. Whitman
Dec 1, 2003, 17:12:08  
Windows does NOT play DVD's out of t ...   Re: re: Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
DrXym
Dec 1, 2003, 17:17:25  
as a way of intimidating his opponents, ...   More pearls from James Turner (   
porky_pig_jr
Dec 1, 2003, 18:32:39  
Personally I'll be glad when Linux l ...   Re: Re: re: Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
horne
Dec 1, 2003, 19:34:46  
Actually, writing a driver for Linux is ...   Re: Re: Re: Blame the device manufacturers   
Dr
Dec 1, 2003, 19:53:10  
You didn't really read the post your ...   Re: Re: re: Gotta love Ad-Hominem Attacks   
C. Whitman
Dec 1, 2003, 22:03:13  
Give up, C. W. If he wants to go on abou ...   re: Re: Re: re: Gotta love   
Brandioch Conner
Dec 1, 2003, 22:59:06  
> Give up, C. W.Give up both of you. Win ...   Re: re: Re: Re: re: Gotta love   
DrXym
Dec 2, 2003, 10:15:43  
Give up both of you. Windows Media Playe ...   Re: re: Re: Re: re: Gotta love   
aRTee
Dec 2, 2003, 13:54:51  
The author of this article will be remem ...   He just wants publicity.   
Mario Miyojim
Dec 2, 2003, 16:15:40  
It does not play encrypted DVDs without ...   Re: Re: re: Re: Re: re: Gotta love   
C. Whitman
Dec 2, 2003, 17:55:43  
I recently had my Windoze system crash i ...   Linux Ready For Desktop?   
Steve Maziarz
Dec 4, 2003, 13:42:46  
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