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:ESR: The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story
ESR: The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story
Feb 26, 2004, 19 :00 UTC (55 Talkback[s]) (13830 reads)

(Other stories by Eric S. Raymond)

"I've just gone through the experience of trying to configure CUPS, the Common Unix Printing System. It has proved a textbook lesson in why nontechnical people run screaming from Unix. This is all the more frustrating because the developers of CUPS have obviously tried hard to produce an accessible system--but the best intentions and effort have led to a system which despite its superficial pseudo-friendliness is so undiscoverable that it might as well have been written in ancient Sanskrit.

"GUI tools and voluminous manuals are not enough. You have to think about what the actual user experiences when he or she sits down to do actual stuff, and you have to think about it from the user's point of view. The CUPS people, despite good intentions, have utterly failed at this. I'm going to anatomize this failure in detail, because there are lessons here that other open-source projects would do well to heed. The point of this essay is not, therefore, just to beat up on the CUPS people--it's also to beat up on every other open-source designer who does equally thoughtless things under the fond delusion that a slick-looking UI is a well-designed UI. Watch and learn..."

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
"I go to my desktop menu and click Syste ...   Don't blame CUPS for Gnome or whutever it is   
Alice
Feb 26, 2004, 19:13:43
 
The wizard Eric Raymond here describes i ...   Not the CUPS interface   
Jurgen Defurne
Feb 26, 2004, 19:14:38
 
I dont know what Cups is like on Unix bu ...   Cups   
Paul Sharrad
Feb 26, 2004, 19:15:10
 
Like I said in my previous post, it seem ...   And to add one up..   
Jurgen Defurne
Feb 26, 2004, 19:20:24
 
  I mostly agree with esr about the lack ...   It's Fedora's problem   
Frogger
Feb 26, 2004, 19:30:49
 
I forgot to say that we use KDE's fr ...   Cups   
Paul Sharrad
Feb 26, 2004, 19:34:38
 
If this person doesn't want to answe ...   Compared to Windows   
Jim
Feb 26, 2004, 19:53:06
 
I haven't used Red Hat for years and ...   The real disgrace   
Eric Laffoon
Feb 26, 2004, 19:58:22
 
I heard good references about CUPS.I am  ...   I am still ignorant about CUPS   
Mario Miyojim
Feb 26, 2004, 20:07:06
 
I've been saying this for years now  ...   FINALLY!   
Robert
Feb 26, 2004, 20:08:26
 
The following is from the cups.conf file ...   Default CUPS config   
gazonk
Feb 26, 2004, 20:15:57
 
I have used the Webmin Interface for cup ...   WebMin Interface   
Scott Carr
Feb 26, 2004, 20:19:34
 
only problem I ever have with CUPS on Ma ...   An occasional hang is the ...   
GreyGeek
Feb 26, 2004, 20:22:10
 
Seen movie office space? It is not about ...   Office space   
larry
Feb 26, 2004, 20:23:29
 
I don't really agree with ESR either ...   SuSE   
Pascal Bleser
Feb 26, 2004, 20:23:36
 
Smart about user interface issues, like  ...   Windows programmers aren't holy   
Richard Corfield
Feb 26, 2004, 20:24:38
 
As a part-time job I have tested a stude ...   It is time for users tod o some work   
psilo
Feb 26, 2004, 20:28:23
 
There is a general problem with text-bas ...   Seperate Config API and GUI!   
be
Feb 26, 2004, 20:31:49
 
Come on ESR, what on earth is this ridic ...   What on earth?   
James
Feb 26, 2004, 20:43:27
 
I know for a fact that techies are compl ...   Re: It is time for users to do some work   
Grishnakh
Feb 26, 2004, 20:51:02
 
> I've just gone through the experie ...   ESR:   
Kurt Pfeifle
Feb 26, 2004, 20:56:25
 
In windows you can specify the quality ( ...   windows printing is far better   
Helen
Feb 26, 2004, 21:10:52
 
Think about GCONFgconf doesn't depen ...   about config API and GUI   
michel
Feb 26, 2004, 21:12:46
 
If you want to get respect, make a good  ...   Respect is earned, not bestowed   
Garrick
Feb 26, 2004, 21:15:34
 
Well said, Kurt!I hope ESR will apologiz ...   Re: ESR:   
R.
Feb 26, 2004, 21:25:00
 
It seems likely that someday ESR will re ...   the bazaar   
Gregory Pittman
Feb 26, 2004, 21:36:23
 
No service that listens on a network soc ...   I will beat any distro who turns on any sockets by   
Jimmy the Geek
Feb 26, 2004, 21:39:20
 
Forget about the booboos for now, someon ...   Where's the bandaids?   
a_hippie
Feb 26, 2004, 22:24:00
 
If this person doesn't want to answe ...   Re: Compared to Windows   
I R A Darth Aggie
Feb 26, 2004, 23:11:04
 
> I heard good references about CUPS.Dud ...   Re: I am still ignorant about CUPS   
I R A Darth Aggie
Feb 26, 2004, 23:12:53
 
Let's get off our butts and MOVE! Th ...   Re: FINALLY!   
I R A Darth Aggie
Feb 26, 2004, 23:16:34
 
I agree with Eric's basic premise, t ...   Being ignorant is HARD   
Charles Lacour
Feb 26, 2004, 23:44:08
 
Aren't you missing the point. Unless ...   Re: It's Fedora's problem   
robT
Feb 26, 2004, 23:58:05
 
I'm shocked that Mr. Raymond even us ...   Umm... Cups automatically finds other cups   
Alex Chejlyk
Feb 27, 2004, 00:17:11
 
Windows has the stangest nonsense printe ...   Re: Re: Compared to Windows   
Alex Chejlyk
Feb 27, 2004, 00:37:31
 
These are all pretty crappy thingies fro ...   redhat-config-printer*   
Bojan Smojver
Feb 27, 2004, 01:43:34
 
> "Good programmers know what to write.  ...   ESR should consider to visit a Google training cla   
SuSE-Lover
Feb 27, 2004, 01:46:29
 
> Local is network, network is network,  ...   Re: Re: Re: Compared to Windows   
Bojan Smojver
Feb 27, 2004, 01:57:57
 
Eric, if you need a good GUI tool to con ...   The Ignorance of a Horror Story Teller: ESR's   
CUPS-Fan
Feb 27, 2004, 02:17:17
 
You are so right about whiners and doers ...   doers and whiners   
neil
Feb 27, 2004, 02:17:18
 
I am a stupid user who gets easily confu ...   Stupid user loves CUPS.   
Richard Staff
Feb 27, 2004, 03:12:27
 
Charles, I completely agree with your po ...   Re: Being ignorant is HARD   
Howard B. Golden
Feb 27, 2004, 05:27:21
 
>GUI tools and voluminous manuals are no ...   ERS is right about one thing...   
Joe Bravo
Feb 27, 2004, 08:59:52
 
> Come on ESR, what on earth is this rid ...   Re: What on earth?   
Joe Bravo
Feb 27, 2004, 09:15:38
 
I'v seen non tech people add printer ...   Huh? KDE makes it easy!   
Jo Řiongen
Feb 27, 2004, 11:02:59
 
You, the greatest ESR, the I-Know-Everyt ...   PLEASE ESR, Apologize yourself   
JIS
Feb 27, 2004, 14:20:56
 
That's the first question ESR should ...   "Where's the beef?"   
Tony Cook
Feb 27, 2004, 14:36:48
 
I have had a love hate relationship with ...   Eric is way too kind   
phil
Feb 27, 2004, 15:31:57
 
is what he meant to say. It just came ou ...   Integration is not perfect ....   
aRTee
Feb 27, 2004, 15:56:44
 
After reading these comments it's cl ...   Comment on these comments   
Wayne
Feb 27, 2004, 18:08:48
 
You make a great point... YOU printed yo ...   antie CUPS   
Pibo
Feb 27, 2004, 20:15:02
 
Nevermind, for a moment, that he may hav ...   He's right about open source software.   
Jay Dolan
Feb 27, 2004, 22:52:01
 
Mr. Raymond is right though.  Whether a  ...   ESR and the linuxtoday editorial   
Matthew Fogel
Feb 28, 2004, 02:42:53
 
>> I am presented with the following alt ...   I prefer thing that works   
Monte Lin
Feb 28, 2004, 09:17:09
 
After doing my command-line best and get ...   Re: Compared to Windows   
BC
Mar 9, 2004, 04:02:37
 
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