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Editor's Note: Blocked Sites and Fair Use
Mar 19, 2004, 23 :30 UTC (110 Talkback[s]) (68392 reads)

(Other stories by Brian Proffitt)

By Brian Proffitt
Managing Editor

There was a problem that occured on Linux Today this afternoon that I feel obliged to explain.

Early this morning, I posted a story from the Information Week Web site entitled, "Massachusetts Builds Open-Source Public Trough." The link to the story was contributed by long-time contributor Jason Greenwood. I surfed to the article, read it, and deemed it worthy for excerpting and linking from our site. I constructed the story and posted it, timing it to run at 1730 GMT (1230 EST).

What I did not know, and did not learn until late this afternoon, was that the publisher of Information Week, CMP Media LLC (a division of United Business Media plc), had apparently decided to block incoming links from Linux Today. I did not realize this because when I linked to the story directly from my system in Indianapolis, there was no block. (Nor, apparently, did Mr. Greenwood get blocked.)

Clearly, this is a block designed specifically for referring sites such as Linux Today. (Though, curiously, a link on NewsForge to the same story that has the exact same excerpt is currently allowed to go through unimpeded.)

Complicating matters today was the fact that I took some time off this afternoon for personal business and was not aware of the problem until my return to the home office at 2200 GMT (1700 EST). Upon learning of the situation, I immediately pulled the story down from the site, as I felt I should do until this situation is resolved.

The crux of the message on CMP's blocking page reads: "Unfortunately, we cannot satisfy this particular request because it comes from a source that is not authorized to redistribute our content..."

Linux Today's editorial staff has long maintained a very strict policy about excerpting other sites' material. We always do so under the guidelines of fair use, which essentially means we can only show a small bit of an entire story. We must also cite the originator of the story, the author, and provide a link to the story.

Fair use is one of the most important deciding factors in choosing a story to run on Linux Today: if the original article is too short, I will not post a link to it, for the simple reason that any excerpt would be too much content.

Unfortunately, CMP seems to have taken the position that fair use excerpts of their stories that send traffic to their site is no longer acceptable to them. Because of the nature of their block, even if we were to post just the link, our readers would be blocked. A URL, it has been clarified in legal decisions, is a fact, like a street address, that can be published freely by any news organization.

No one at Linux Today or Jupitermedia, our parent company, has been contacted by CMP regarding this decision. I sincerely hope that discussions can be initiated with them, so that we can link to their sites from time to time.

Until this matter is resolved, Linux Today will honor CMP's implied request and no longer link to any content on their sites. I will also begin testing all links from the Linux Today servers so that this inconvenience does not occur again. Readers should note that all past stories linking to CMP sites are likely to be blocked as well. I will try to keep referencing links to past CMP articles out of the "Related Stories" sections of future articles.

I am personally saddened by this move, as I feel it only brings harm to CMP, not Linux Today. Given the myriad of Linux news content available on the Internet, many news stories appearing on CMP sites are duplicated by other publishers' sites, including some of our own JupiterWeb sites. So, the traffic that once went to CMP sites from us will now go somewhere else.

It also harms you, the reader, as you are deprived of one more news and information source. While many news stories overlap, there are always unique slants and factoids that one reporter might have over another.

I will keep you posted as the situation moves forward.

Update: As I was making one last pass through the 'Net before retiring Friday evening, I located a new source for the exact same story mentioned here. In order to provide complete coverage to LT readers, I have re-posted the story. I still intend to inquire about CMP's new policy at the start of next week. -BKP


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
When you click on a link to go to a URL, ...   How does it block?   
Tony
Mar 19, 2004, 23:50:22
 
Wonder if they block referrals from Slas ...   Slashdot 'em   
Dale Pontius
Mar 20, 2004, 00:00:52
 
you have a loyal audience  ...   keep up the good work   
Rabid Hamster
Mar 20, 2004, 00:04:09
 
Someone at CMP has shot himself/herself  ...   Ready, Aim, Fire! Ouch!   
Howard B. Golden
Mar 20, 2004, 00:07:24
 
As i recall, the browser sends a field t ...   Re: How does it block?   
Leston Buell
Mar 20, 2004, 00:12:48
 
I don't think it will block if your  ...   Re: How does it block?   
Frihet
Mar 20, 2004, 00:14:15
 
When you send a request for a URL to a w ...   Re: How does it block?   
Beastfro
Mar 20, 2004, 00:16:30
 
When people, companies or organizations  ...   deep distress   
Frank
Mar 20, 2004, 00:22:05
 
Advice your readers to use "Block Referr ...   use   
Harpreet
Mar 20, 2004, 00:24:22
 
> When you click on a link to go to a UR ...   Re: How does it block?   
Void Main
Mar 20, 2004, 00:38:19
 
The incoming referer. That's how.Bum ...   The refere   
Pascal Abessolo
Mar 20, 2004, 00:46:38
 
The method InformationWeek uses to block ...   Easily bypassed   
Paul A. Rombouts
Mar 20, 2004, 00:50:28
 
More then a few linked sites from Linux  ...   Seems Kinda Silly   
Bob
Mar 20, 2004, 01:28:44
 
What idiots CMP are. Apparently they do  ...   CMP now points to 127.0.0.1   
bjorn stadil
Mar 20, 2004, 01:32:49
 
Just scratch them off your list of sourc ...   Drop 'em   
Simon
Mar 20, 2004, 02:28:38
 
> you have a loyal audienceAgreed. I saw ...   Re: keep up the good work   
acyberpunk
Mar 20, 2004, 03:47:43
 
I appears there is a hidden pref in moz  ...   moz 1.6 about:config   
Gene Smith
Mar 20, 2004, 04:21:15
 
Unless this is some kind of honest mista ...   Unfounded and shallow   
Bojan Smojver
Mar 20, 2004, 04:46:42
 
Maybe they take offense at some of the i ...   because   
jay
Mar 20, 2004, 04:52:56
 
I access most Linux news sites exclusive ...   CMP is hurting itself   
blacklight
Mar 20, 2004, 06:29:16
 
From the CMP site: "Thank you for helpin ...   Idiot online publish doesn't understand how th   
Lars Janssen
Mar 20, 2004, 08:22:42
 
This is a stupid move on CMP's part, ...   Stupid because you can simply cut and paste the li   
Richard T
Mar 20, 2004, 09:42:49
 
My sympathies, Mr. Profitt.It's toug ...   Impressively Stupid...   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Mar 20, 2004, 11:34:36
 
This is assinine.  There were arguments  ...   And so the web fails.   
g@
Mar 20, 2004, 13:14:47
 
With CMP blocking access from LT and pos ...   Breach of Contract   
BD
Mar 20, 2004, 15:09:54
 
I appears there is a hidden pref in moz  ...   Re: moz 1.6 about:config   
horne
Mar 20, 2004, 15:59:59
 
Something new to learn every day... on l ...   lynx -noreferer   
MartinV
Mar 20, 2004, 16:54:05
 
CMP is certainly within their rights to  ...   CMP now getting fewer visits from me   
SB
Mar 20, 2004, 17:01:45
 
> I appears there is a hidden pref in mo ...   Re: moz 1.6 about:config   
SB
Mar 20, 2004, 17:07:12
 
I wish the readers of LT would go and le ...   Well let them know how you feel!   
kyle
Mar 20, 2004, 17:55:27
 
> From the CMP site: "Thank you for help ...   Re: Idiot online publish doesn't understand ho   
SB
Mar 20, 2004, 18:00:53
 
However,it gives me the opportunity to t ...   One more unimportant comment   
lars
Mar 20, 2004, 18:08:39
 
(In the voice of Mr. Burns) Excellent. T ...   Re: moz 1.6 about:config   
abbie\'s ghost
Mar 20, 2004, 23:53:05
 
Here is the content of the message I jus ...   Re: Well let them know how you feel!   
Stephen Hughes
Mar 21, 2004, 00:42:20
 
That's a nice way at looking at the  ...   Really cool   
MadDogTMC
Mar 21, 2004, 01:07:11
 
When I was a windows drone, I used to bu ...   In the early days...   
MadDogTMC
Mar 21, 2004, 01:28:40
 
I suspect that if you linked to CMP via  ...   Bypass using TinyURL   
William
Mar 21, 2004, 05:31:05
 
Any way to disable the referer in IE?  ...   Diabling referer in IE   
Robert C. Miller
Mar 21, 2004, 05:52:20
 
Not only are they denying page impressio ...   Incredible   
Corba the Geek
Mar 21, 2004, 08:46:35
 
No problem getting through with links on ...   They accept links from google news   
Anon
Mar 21, 2004, 16:21:28
 
I think CMP will be missing out on a typ ...   CMP: In effect, LT is providing free advertising   
ac@foo.com
Mar 21, 2004, 17:00:41
 
Yes - enter into the URL bar of Internet ...   Re: Diabling referer in IE   
ajs318
Mar 21, 2004, 21:24:51
 
> When you click on a link to go to a UR ...   Re: How does it block?   
Norm
Mar 21, 2004, 21:33:54
 
> When you click on a link to go to a UR ...   Re: How does it block?   
Kormac
Mar 21, 2004, 21:40:15
 
They use a simple script. One of the pie ...   Re: How does it block?   
Tim
Mar 21, 2004, 21:50:00
 
While in general I dislike anonymous pos ...   Fair use is in the eye of the beholder   
Anonymous Coward
Mar 21, 2004, 21:57:38
 
True enough about needing about some oth ...   Re: Re: How does it block?   
larry bird
Mar 21, 2004, 22:02:25
 
When you goto an URL your browser sends  ...   http referrer   
Antony
Mar 21, 2004, 22:03:31
 
Try dragging the link into the titlebar/ ...   Re: Diabling referer in IE   
se
Mar 21, 2004, 22:09:22
 
Fair use is quoting a passage to support ...   But you are stealing content   
Calling it like I see it.
Mar 21, 2004, 22:15:01
 
Opera (which I use) has had the ability  ...   Opera, too   
anon
Mar 21, 2004, 22:22:06
 
The story made it to Slashdot Sunday at  ...   I guess we find out, today - or not   
Dale Pontius
Mar 21, 2004, 22:24:21
 
i don't think you can purchase EETim ...   Re: Re: Well let them know how you feel!   
Steve Poling
Mar 21, 2004, 22:26:18
 
...using mod_rewrite. I assume this is h ...   How one would do this in Apache   
Elektronkind
Mar 21, 2004, 22:29:09
 
I will be happy to write a courteous let ...   Please give us an email address.   
ROM
Mar 21, 2004, 22:36:08
 
add this line to user.js in your mozilla ...   Turn off Mozilla referals.   
Michael Long
Mar 21, 2004, 22:43:48
 
A web proxy like JunkBuster can do this  ...   JunkBuster   
linux_maverick
Mar 21, 2004, 22:45:46
 
On a board I used to visit, when an imag ...   Copy/paste links   
Tom
Mar 21, 2004, 22:46:43
 
When you click the link, information in  ...   Re: How does it block?   
Andrewthrice
Mar 21, 2004, 22:49:29
 
The browser will add a HTTP-header calle ...   Re: How does it block?   
SurFMan
Mar 21, 2004, 22:50:55
 
How did you turn yours off?> I don't ...   Re: Re: How does it block?   
Andrewthrice
Mar 21, 2004, 22:51:22
 
Maybe referring to it as a "trough" was  ...   Trough   
John
Mar 21, 2004, 23:02:23
 
It blcoks by using the HTTP_REFERER envi ...   Re: How does it block?   
John Wiggins
Mar 21, 2004, 23:07:49
 
The HTTP header contains the Referer. So ...   Re: How does it block?   
Vikas Chauhan
Mar 21, 2004, 23:13:42
 
Between their spamming me with adverts f ...   2nd strike   
Justin
Mar 21, 2004, 23:13:53
 
Here, with mozilla and epiphany, a middl ...   Middle click   
Jeff
Mar 21, 2004, 23:15:16
 
the linked server knows because the brow ...   Re: How does it block?   
quonsar
Mar 21, 2004, 23:33:50
 
Wow -- I guess you showed them.  There&# ...   RE: CMP now points to 127.0.0.1   
Jammer
Mar 21, 2004, 23:41:23
 
The publishers are clearly too moronic t ...   Forget 'em   
DaveW
Mar 21, 2004, 23:48:11
 
Follow the Money!CMP is a 'paid by a ...   Could it be ad blocking software related?   
Dan Atterton
Mar 21, 2004, 23:51:41
 
Bc. when the browser accesses a page, it ...   Re: How does it block?   
Destiny
Mar 21, 2004, 23:59:37
 
Looks like the whole article is gone. I  ...   Editor's Note: Blocked Sites and Fair Use   
Kevin
Mar 22, 2004, 00:15:30
 
going to the cmp website one can,of cour ...   CMP   
dean berger
Mar 22, 2004, 00:20:12
 
The browser sends a field called HTTP_RE ...   Re: How does it block?   
Jim Liedeka
Mar 22, 2004, 00:39:32
 
No one has a right to know where you cam ...   The right to see referers   
Hank Shiffman
Mar 22, 2004, 00:48:41
 
Overbearing, hyper-controlling freaks li ...   Use Webwasher   
Your Name
Mar 22, 2004, 01:03:10
 
Both of the links mentioned in the origi ...   Re: Bypass using TinyURL   
Roger
Mar 22, 2004, 01:08:36
 
It is also blocked.  ...   Using TinyURL   
Steve Graham
Mar 22, 2004, 01:19:36
 
i have just followed a link from another ...   My reply to them!   
me
Mar 22, 2004, 01:32:13
 
They are sold to M$ ! That's why.  ...   CMP   
Alain
Mar 22, 2004, 01:33:21
 
ok ... so... it's not exactly a big  ...   ok ... so   
ok ... so
Mar 22, 2004, 01:40:01
 
Kornbluth, Cyril M.The Little Black Bagh ...   The Little Black Bag Revisited   
Wesley Parish
Mar 22, 2004, 02:33:44
 
Thanks for this tip!I tried it on Firefo ...   Firefox   
John
Mar 22, 2004, 02:54:35
 
There is something called HTTP-Referer t ...   Re: How does it block?   
Kudang
Mar 22, 2004, 02:57:42
 
why would you threaten legal action, its ...   legal action   
Pagan0ne
Mar 22, 2004, 03:00:12
 
Your browser sends that information in i ...   Re: How does it block?   
bheerssen
Mar 22, 2004, 03:00:39
 
I would assume that they are using the " ...   RE: How does it block?   
John
Mar 22, 2004, 03:10:06
 
Copyright is nothing but a form of censo ...   Copyright is censorship   
macdaddy357
Mar 22, 2004, 03:12:28
 
Why the word "trough?" Why not call it a ...   Isn't a trough for animals?   
Joey Giraud
Mar 22, 2004, 03:21:06
 
> Fair use is quoting a passage to suppo ...   Re: But you are stealing content   
Svartalf
Mar 22, 2004, 03:52:00
 
> Copyright is nothing but a form of cen ...   Re: Copyright is censorship   
Svartalf
Mar 22, 2004, 03:57:48
 
> When you click on a link to go to a UR ...   Re: How does it block?   
Brad Griffin
Mar 22, 2004, 04:30:34
 
I'd guess it probably looks at the H ...   Re: How does it block?   
Adam P
Mar 22, 2004, 04:41:36
 
This is just fscking moronic.To prevent  ...   squid and bind to the resclue...   
Karsten M. Self
Mar 22, 2004, 06:03:07
 
> add this line to user.js in your mozil ...   Turn off Netscape Communicator referals. (Was: Tur   
Mr. Anonymous
Mar 22, 2004, 06:26:14
 
In case you didn't notice... this sm ...   PR Stunt! Nothing more!   
Zack
Mar 22, 2004, 08:33:06
 
They check the HTTP_REFERER tag.> When y ...   Re: How does it block?   
Markus Diersbock
Mar 22, 2004, 10:38:37
 
All HTTP requests contain various header ...   HTTP Headers   
Charlie Dobbie
Mar 22, 2004, 11:52:32
 
Unless filtered, most browsers will send ...   referer   
helper
Mar 22, 2004, 11:59:41
 
I never encounter these kinds of problem ...   Surfers Can Block Referrer Fields   
fdfasdf
Mar 22, 2004, 12:21:42
 
> When you click on a link to go to a UR ...   Re: How does it block?   
Rob
Mar 22, 2004, 14:00:45
 
If you're not going to contact them  ...   Why didn't you contact?   
Spoonman
Mar 22, 2004, 14:28:14
 
LOL...You can always link to me!www.linu ...   You can always link to me!   
Rob Thomoas
Mar 22, 2004, 14:58:21
 
Isn't that sorta like cutting off yo ...   Uhm...   
Christopher Charabaruk
Mar 22, 2004, 15:06:19
 
I'm in a foul, BOFH mood today.If so ...   Please post CMP netblocks   
Ned Ulbricht
Mar 23, 2004, 01:29:56
 
Tony asks, "When you click on a link to  ...   Re: How does it block?   
Rob Poole
Mar 23, 2004, 01:30:06
 
The text om my message I left on http:// ...   This is what I sent to them   
Jacek Piskozub
Mar 23, 2004, 07:24:08
 
> ...the only way to defeat this is to h ...   Re: Re: How does it block?   
Gene Smith
Mar 23, 2004, 23:07:53
 
I tried your tip in Firebird. Works well ...   Good Tip   
lth
Mar 24, 2004, 21:15:07
 
With a bit of PHP... $_SERVER['REMOT ...   Re: How does it block?   
Paulo Oliveira
Mar 31, 2004, 20:35:09
 
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