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:Community: Do We Really Want OEM PCs, Laptops With Only GNU/Linux Preinstalled?
Community: Do We Really Want OEM PCs, Laptops With Only GNU/Linux Preinstalled?
Sep 25, 2004, 02 :00 UTC (40 Talkback[s]) (17894 reads)

(Other stories by Zeek Greko)

[ Thanks to Zeek Greko for this article. ]

Linux preloaded on PCs and laptops is greatly desirable to many of us in the GNU/Linux Community. However, there are practical considerations to address.

Just last week NewsForge ran an article by Chris DiBona, a staunch GNU/Linux advocate. In his piece he indicated (admitted) that in order to use some of his preferred (considers he can't do without) applications, he has to dual boot with Windows XP.

In his case, and I suspect many others are in the same boat as well, he would have to purchase and install Windows XP separately to get the desired configuration he currently needs. We also just completed the Back To School computer purchase cycle where a great number of schools and colleges require Windows. However unfair, this would add the price of Windows XP on top of any student's PC or laptop purchases. This defeats the avoidance of the Microsoft Tax and forwarding GNU/Linux's market share and popularity purpose of preinstalled "GNU/Linux only" computers.

This is the case at least for the time being, while waiting for schools, colleges, and other institutions to accept GNU/Linux, and for some of these ISV (independent software vendors) to come up to speed with porting and supporting GNU/Linux with these "Can't Do Without" commercial applications. Or when other acceptable-easy-alternative applications become available. Why don't we, as a community, try the flip side of this equation?

What is the flip side you ask?

The GNU/Linux community might be better served by pushing for 100% GNU/Linux compatible computers instead. Then, at least attempt to provide and support (after the initial install, support becomes standard fare) a "No Brain" dual boot or replacement distribution for these Linux-capable PCs and laptops that are sold in high volume. This is a no-risk proposition for the "Linux curious" consumer and the economics make vastly more sense.

Plus, the OEMs would be given a viable non-threatening path towards GNU/Linux support, just by building and shipping computers where all the hardware will easily work with GNU/Linux. Rather than OEMs taking a direct frontal, confrontational OS choice approach with Microsoft, since end-users are not the only ones that are affected by vendor lock-in.

(As a bit of a sidebar, if your throw in some bad publicity to OEMs who intentionally and needlessly limit their customers "choice" of operating systems with their offerings, and you have a pretty good motivator towards compliance. A headline example could read: "Dell's New XYZ Model PCs and Laptops Limit Customer Choice".)

I've read many news pieces and blogs implying that in the back rooms, behind the scenes, OEMs would love to get on board with total GNU/Linux support. But they fear angering Microsoft and risking their bread and butter businesses currently centered around Microsoft. Losing the promotional and kickback payments they currently receive from Microsoft would put them at a competitive disadvantage. If these OEMs use only GNU/Linux supported hardware components, they will have an "out" and would be enough for us as a community to reasonably expect until GNU/Linux reaches a critical mass.

A Practical GNU/Linux Community Path To Adoption

As mentioned earlier, we just completed the Back To School computer buying cycle. I was approached by many parents and friends, quizzing me on the best computers to buy for their children/students. In many cases they provided a list of minimum requirements from their children's respective schools. You guessed correctly, they all require Windows 2K/XP.

So where did I point them? Well, first off, I believe students have enough stuff to schlep around without them having to carry around and set up a full desktop PC. So I recommend a desktop replacement laptop/notebook. Then, from a GNU/Linux advocate's point of view, I either must find a preloaded GNU/Linux laptop (few and far between and relatively expensive) then install Win2K/XP to meet their schools' requirements, or find a GNU/Linux supported laptop with Windows preloaded, then dual boot it with a GNU/Linux distribution I am comfortable supporting.

While feeling backed up against a wall with this task, I started looking for the practical, best case, real-world solution with all things considered. While surfing around looking, I happened upon a particular laptop model at Wal-Mart. The model number A535 struck a chord in my memory. Yes! That's it! The same model number ECS A535 Lindows/now Linspire announced they would be pre installing their Operating System on a few months ago!

It's not only GNU/Linux compatible, but it's a great deal for a laptop regardless of the OS choice.

I put the word out. Buy this A535 at Wal-Mart or the equally compatible CN6302 (same model w/extras) beefier sibling with a DVD/CDRW 256 MB RAM, AMD XP1800+ and a better battery (specifications for both models below).

The thank you notes from parents who who got these desktop replacement laptops are still coming in. They love 'em. Some have said that they normally would have been fearful of buying an important piece of equipment like a computer from Wal-Mart. But they couldn't be happier now. And nearly every one of these laptops will become dual boot GNU/Linux/Windows Laptops in the near future. Enter-broad smile and snicker...

Conclusion

We are in a world where it is currently nearly impossible, in most cases, to avoid the Windows operating system. To buy a computer that lacks this essential component (Windows), which is basically thrown in with every computer shipped, at far below the price of purchasing it at retail, then having to add it later to meet your needs anyway doesn't make sense.

We as a community would do well to push for 100% compatibility then hook users up with a GNU/Linux. Those who don't have a need for Windows can apply for a refund for it. Last I heard, it is required by law to refund to those who don't want it.

So, in this case anyway, you have a choice: you can buy one of HP's new half-hearted attempts at Linux preinstalled laptops, the NX5000 then add Windows for $100 plus dollars. Or, you can buy two of these commodity priced Linux compatible laptops at Wal-Mart and add your favorite distro for free. Hmmm... tough choice!

[First] Basic Model
Model No. A535 $598.00 Approx-$605.00 Shipped
AMD Athlon XP-M 1600+ processor
14.1" XGA TFT LCD screen
40 GB hard drive
128 MB RAM
DVD-ROM drive
Integrated 802.11b wireless networking
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

[Second] Same Notebook with enhancements
Balance by ECS
Model No. CN6302
$698.00 Aprox-$705.00 Shipped
AMD Athlon XP-M 1800+ processor
14.1-inch XGA TFT LCD screen
40 GB hard drive
256 MB RAM
DVD-ROM / CDRW drive
Integrated 802.11b wireless networking
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

Improved specs compared to the $598 model
1800+ processor (compared to a 1600+)
Additional 128 MB of RAM
Built-in CD/RW burner
8-cell battery for longer-lasting power

Accessories Included with Both Models
AC adapter, removable battery, Windows XP Home Edition, InterVideo WinDVD 4 software for playing DVDs


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
This is an understandable but short sigh ...   but Sales = hardware drivers   
ls
Sep 25, 2004, 02:28:10
 
I can't disagree more. I can't s ...   Can't disagree more...   
JaseP
Sep 25, 2004, 03:42:39
 
Why not give the consumer a choice?1. Wi ...   Choice   
Sean
Sep 25, 2004, 04:19:49
 
You're absolutely right, just becaus ...   Go away   
Anders
Sep 25, 2004, 04:40:44
 
"The GNU/Linux community might be better ...   100% GNU/Linux compatible computers   
Karl O. Pinc
Sep 25, 2004, 05:32:39
 
I just don't want to have to pay for ...   HELL YES   
James Smith
Sep 25, 2004, 05:37:58
 
The idea presented addresses the need fo ...   We need both   
Jim
Sep 25, 2004, 07:09:09
 
Yes we want fully capable Gnu/Linux syst ...   Do We Really Want OEM PCs, Laptops With Only GNU/L   
Joe
Sep 25, 2004, 07:59:33
 
Why don't you advocate that all PC v ...   I'm Curious   
Con Zymaris
Sep 25, 2004, 10:26:11
 
We not only want Linux pre-loaded PCs: W ...   YES!   
none
Sep 25, 2004, 11:25:09
 
I mean really; I for one enjoy a linux i ...   Where is the fun in a preinstalled system?   
Faisal
Sep 25, 2004, 11:42:39
 
...world does not only revolve arrounf M ...   I will say this:   
Charles
Sep 25, 2004, 11:42:57
 
Consumers should have the option of sele ...   Choice of Pre-Installed OS   
horne
Sep 25, 2004, 13:29:34
 
We also just completed the Back To Schoo ...   School Requires a Speocif OS?   
horne
Sep 25, 2004, 13:37:24
 
Are you saying even the wireless card is ...   wireless works too?!   
nunyuz
Sep 25, 2004, 13:57:31
 
Reality check: we do exist, thank you.Th ...   So Linux-only users don't exist?   
Marcus Lauer
Sep 25, 2004, 15:11:50
 
"Do We Really Want OEM PCs, Laptops With ...   I do!   
drew Roberts
Sep 25, 2004, 16:07:17
 
strangely, i guess, i haven't had an ...   windows tax   
flacco
Sep 25, 2004, 16:41:47
 
I certainly agree that getting the OEMs  ...   Linux Prebuilds   
Thad Phetteplace
Sep 25, 2004, 16:57:10
 
> Are you saying even the wireless card  ...   Re: wireless works too?!   
AdamW
Sep 25, 2004, 17:17:51
 
> It's not enough that astroturfers  ...   Re: Go away   
R.L.
Sep 25, 2004, 17:45:30
 
I for one am tired from those people who ...   Computers with Linux and no stinking GNU   
JFM
Sep 25, 2004, 18:26:52
 
That MS can force that kind of mark-up o ...   MSWindows? Cui bono?   
Charles Hixson
Sep 25, 2004, 18:43:42
 
I did some research on the Wal-Mart lapt ...   Battery Life?   
Richard Steven Hack
Sep 25, 2004, 19:19:07
 
> Why not give the consumer a choice?> 1 ...   Re: Choice   
Abe
Sep 25, 2004, 19:20:15
 
As long as the OEMs know that the "decid ...   Re: Can't disagree more...   
Jeff D.
Sep 25, 2004, 21:20:12
 
> > Are you saying even the wireless car ...   Re: Re: wireless works too?!   
nunyuz
Sep 25, 2004, 22:40:13
 
when i can get a cheap, light, gnu/linux ...   Re: windows tax   
horne
Sep 26, 2004, 00:46:24
 
> I for one am tired from those people w ...   Re: Computers with Linux and no stinking GNU   
R:la:E:nek@M:nov:O:eni:V:ne.c:E:om
Sep 26, 2004, 05:40:43
 
Even if we grant that, for some purposes ...   not every computer needs Windows   
Joe Buck
Sep 26, 2004, 06:05:18
 
'GNU/Linux' for 'Linux', ...   edit -> find and replace ...   
R.L.
Sep 26, 2004, 08:06:08
 
Walmart Laptops To Get Optimized Linux D ...   A Press Release I'd Like To See!   
Anon
Sep 27, 2004, 01:29:01
 
Good point. The basic premise of the art ...   re: but Sales = hardware drivers   
robocoastie
Sep 27, 2004, 11:50:05
 
Pay Microsoft a license fee that will on ...   Your words defy logic   
K.S. Bhaskar
Sep 27, 2004, 13:36:04
 
> Why don't you advocate that all PC ...   Re: I'm Curious   
phil
Sep 27, 2004, 19:20:01
 
has anyone got their hands on the walmar ...   specs on laptop mentioned in article   
Richard
Sep 30, 2004, 13:24:56
 
No, there are no PCMCIA slots on this La ...   Re: specs on laptop mentioned in article   
Zeek G
Sep 30, 2004, 18:34:37
 
I didn't see any 'intimidation&# ...   Re: Computers with Linux and no stinking GNU   
wookey
Jun 7, 2005, 10:59:10
 
math and cs student at sosu.  thinking o ...   linux   
phil galey
Dec 20, 2005, 02:44:10
 
Or so I read.  My laptop has a Broadcom  ...   Some wireless cards are supported   
Steve Rush
Nov 19, 2006, 05:59:07
 
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