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:Something to Really Bake Your Noodle
Something to Really Bake Your Noodle
Apr 25, 2008, 22 :30 UTC (25 Talkback[s]) (10934 reads)

(Other stories by Brian Proffitt)

By Brian Proffitt
Managing Editor

First off, I need to extend my apologies for the lack of an Editor's Note last week. I could offer up a myriad of reasons why, but it really came down to not enough time and not enough to say. It happens.

Not so this week; plenty of time, and plenty of things to say. Let's just hope it's interesting.

While we were all watching the fall out of Red Hat's announcement and Novell's CEO's comments about focusing on the enterprise desktop, meanwhile Canonical undermined their comments with a very solid release of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron). I pulled down the Kubuntu flavor of Heron yesterday, and thus far I like what I have seen.

There will be other reviews, of course, more detailed than I will provide here, and I invite readers to check them out. For my meager part, everything seems to function well. I haven't noticed any great leaps in speed or interface changes, though I think the font rendering is much better than I have seen in a while. One bugaboo: my Gnumeric no longer has a minimize button (and the panel menu's Minimize command is disabled). Kind of weird, but manageable, since I use Gnumeric pretty much the entire day to storyboard the LT feed.

One of the things that gets me about upgrading to a new version is the lack of dramatic changes. As I have written before, everything these days is done in increments. There are no big leaps anymore, particularly in the interface arena. Nor, I have come to believe, should there be. One example: my wife was exposed to Office 2007 at her work the other day and hated it; she could not find anything she needed, having gotten very used to Office 2003. She said she never had that much trouble when she started to use OpenOffice.org at home.

Still, the geek part of me (everything from my ankles up) sometimes longs for the heady days when new interfaces came out as a matter of course. I remember being stunned moving from Windows 286 to Windows 3.0. Windows 95 and 98, I must admit, provided fun times too--at least from the interface aspect. Mac OS X was like ambrosia. GNOME 2.0 and KDE 3.0 gave me similar chills.

Today, though, interface designers are more conservative in their changes, because while drastic changes may please the geekatroids among us, they make casual users very nervous.

Lately, though, I have begun to get that little thrill down my spine when I play with KDE 4. It's an interface that's pretty and (bonus) so fundamentally different than what we have now, it brings a lot of excitement to the table.

The typical fallacy about KDE 4 when people look at it is "oh look, a pretty desktop" and form their opinions based on that. I admit, I had the same thought. The Oxygen-themed icons and the widgets are indeed very pleasing eye-candy. But under the hood, there's a huge set of differences that could fundamentally change the way Linux developers code. To make sure I understand these changes, I called up Aaron Seigo, the lead developer of Plasma and asked for a basic rundown of what he and his team are doing.

To emphasize the impact of what the Plasma (and the KDE team in general) are trying to accomplish, Seigo started with a bit of history lesson.

In the beginning of the graphical user interface (GUI) universe, there was PARC, and it was good.

Wait, too metaphorical, let me try again: in the 1960s and 1970s, when GUI research began, the limitations of the computing environment (floppy-booted operating systems, highly rudimentary networking, no multi-tasking to speak of) the file-based interface concept made a lot of sense. It was a good metaphor and fit quite well with the environment of the time.

Now, decades later, we have personal computers with massive drives, USB devices, peripherals. So much data is floating around that you simply cannot view or use all your files all at once. The hardware has grown, but it's left the GUI behind.

Seigo first got a hint of how things could be different when he was watching graphic designers working at their machines. They would tend to lump everything together into project-oriented folders, where every file for a given project was placed into a single folder. The designers would then open the folder, dump all of the contents out to the desktop, and start working. Once finished, they would move everything back into the folder, close it, and start on the next folder.

This work process started him thinking: what would it look like if you could manage everything--files and tools--for a given project as objects? Instead of just managing files, you could manage objects instead? These objects can be interconnected so that whenever you accessed a file, a web page, or an application, all of the related files and tools would open up, too?

A personal way of thinking about this for me would be my morning routine. Instead of separately opening all of the files and apps I use to put LT together, what if I could just visit the LT admin page and have everything--Gnumeric, gedit, Pidgin, my Gmail page--just pop open, identities automatically managed? That would certainly be handy.

Anyone who uses multi-site book marks in Firefox can get an inkling of what I am talking about. I can open up my browser now and click a link to open the 16 pages I start looking for news for LT. Now extend that to the entire desktop and you can get a sense of what Plasma is about. It's an object-based way of looking at the information inside these PCs sitting in front of us.

Basically how this works is through the use of scripting languages (any one you want) that build apps that run on the interface, not the operating system underneath. These aren't big monolithic applications either. The scripting means that you can exchange tools or whole sets of tools within the Plasma interface. If you like a certain media player's controls inside of your Konqueror application, it will now be easy to just pull the controls in with just a few lines of code.

Writing to the interface and not the OS leads to another advantage of KDE 4: apps written to it now no longer care what OS you are using. I watched the KDE 4 launch event video on YouTube this morning and saw a Mac developer and a Windows developer run the same apps on top of KDE 4/Mac and KDE 4/Windows. The apps (Marble, Kstar, Konqueror) ran just like their Linux counterparts--and not a single line of code was changed in any of these applications to port them. They were running on Plasma, and were quite happy to do so.

I have touched on this capability before, and have hinted that such functionality could lead to a universal shell that ran on the major operating systems and would allow seamless transitions for users from one OS to another. Being the Linux advocate, I also hinted that this could be the "gateway" for Windows users to Linux. A lot of readers came back with "why would anyone average user use Plasma on Windows in the first place? And what would be the incentive for Redmond to install it?"

Fair enough. But even without such a future outcome, the platform independence would still be huge advantage: non-PC platforms (tablets, media centers, PDAs, phones) would now be far more accessible for application developers. You could write your app for Plasma and see it run anywhere Plasma fits. Without porting. Instantly. In fact, in this year's Summer of Code at Google, there's a Plasma project to stabilize Plasma further on the mobile platform.

Closer to home, there's always been the age old problem of app developers wringing their hands about which distribution to code for. "Red Hat? SUSE? Ubuntu? Mandriva? So many choices," they think, "guess we should just skip it." And often they do just that (completely missing whole point of the Linux Standard Base). When KDE 4 is in place and Plasma is more stable (likely by KDE 4.1), then such problems would be moot. Don't know what distro to code to? Then code to Plasma, and it won't matter.

The possibilities, it seems, are far-reaching and quite mind-stretching. It's a free software project that promises to do the one thing that no other software has been able to do to date: bring us any information anywhere and anytime.

And, hey, it's pretty too.


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The music production tools could use som ...   Needed now in music production   
Phil
Apr 25, 2008, 22:48:00
 
they worry about KDE vs Gnome if their a ...   um .. before developers worry about SUSE vs RHAT v   
Eldon
Apr 25, 2008, 23:40:40
 
This sounds a lot like OS/2's Worksp ...   Like OS/2's workspace folders   
Scott
Apr 25, 2008, 23:55:56
 
"Being the Linux advocate, I also hinted ...   Plasma   
Bob Katz
Apr 26, 2008, 00:17:18
 
In OS/2 v2.0 and onward there was a feat ...   Workplaceshell had something like this   
barney
Apr 26, 2008, 01:51:35
 
The more things change the more they sta ...   Java redux   
philc
Apr 26, 2008, 01:54:45
 
You can, it's called LASH (Linux aud ...   Re: Needed now in music production   
Andrew Johnston
Apr 26, 2008, 02:01:48
 
"Basically how this works is through the ...   performance hit   
Steve Stites
Apr 26, 2008, 04:52:04
 
>> When KDE 4 is in place and Plasma is  ...   Beyond KDE   
Jose_X
Apr 26, 2008, 05:49:38
 
> This sounds a lot like OS/2's Work ...   Re: Like OS/2's workspace folders   
Jose_X
Apr 26, 2008, 05:56:04
 
It's not the case. The core of Plasm ...   Re: performance hit   
Luca Beltrame
Apr 26, 2008, 07:29:45
 
As various people have already pointed o ...   Old errors never die.   
Rainer Weikusat
Apr 26, 2008, 14:05:53
 
I recently read about DtKsh (graphical K ...   DtKsh and ignoring lessons of history   
Yim
Apr 26, 2008, 16:03:36
 
"It's not the case. The core of Plas ...   Re: Re: performance hit   
Steve Stites
Apr 26, 2008, 16:53:11
 
/* The three points taken from the edito ...   Finally: "The Desktop"   
GaAsP
Apr 26, 2008, 20:25:48
 
I started using the commercial version o ...   KDE performance, etc...   
GreyGeek
Apr 26, 2008, 22:01:15
 
 After an extensive Google search I deci ...   Re: performance hit   
GreyGeek
Apr 26, 2008, 23:21:59
 
   The    possibilities,   it   seems,   ...   Not every thing is a improvement.....   
Byran Lee
Apr 27, 2008, 10:24:07
 
Maybe the Windows users would not feel t ...   Re: KDE performance, etc...   
Yim
Apr 27, 2008, 12:05:06
 
With the ability to run the FREE KDE  de ...   Re: KDE performance, etc...   
pontke
Apr 28, 2008, 17:20:43
 
...Did Apple and Microsoft really solve  ...   Re: Not every thing is a improvement.....   
GreyGeek
Apr 28, 2008, 17:23:45
 
> It would be nice to have all the synth ...   Re: Needed now in music production   
Tom King
Apr 28, 2008, 20:46:39
 
To answer my self: no. The thing is, har ...   So what?   
Jamie Ramone
Apr 28, 2008, 21:11:11
 
   One other thing I noticed: in 1980 on ...   Goals of pretty interfaces   
Byran Lee
Apr 29, 2008, 01:22:17
 
You'll have to figure out how to tur ...   KDE 4, of course   
taupist
May 4, 2008, 17:58:05
 
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