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Ubuntu Is Driving Me Away
Jun 10, 2009, 14 :02 UTC (56 Talkback[s]) (7558 reads)

"I know that Microsoft is opposed to the existence of Linux. That have said so, often and stridently. I know that Novell caved in and did not stand up for FOSS when they had the chance. They have since apologized, sort of, but the damage is done. Other companies did not follow suit, including Red Hat and Canonical. I respect them for this as much as I detest Novell for selling us down the drain.

"Mono is not only a reminder of that sellout, but its legal status is far from settled. Novell and Microsoft can’t agree on who can distribute it. Microsoft takes the position that their agreement only covers Novell and not other distributions. Novell thinks otherwise. I do not care. Nothing that comes from Microsoft can be for our good and benefit. They are dedicated to our destruction and downfall.

"Mono has infected Gnome. Ubuntu uses Gnome. I switched to Kubuntu and am happy with it. Now Moonlight is infecting Linux. Canonical is compromising its principles in the use of them and in my using their products I am forced to compromise my own values."

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
I totally agree with your stance on Mono ...   a big issue that people are ignoring   
Fred Williams
Jun 10, 2009, 15:06:13
 
I for one am tired of some people trying ...   Here we go again...   
chris
Jun 10, 2009, 15:10:35
 
I think this was a well written article, ...   Good Article   
Howard Pepper
Jun 10, 2009, 15:36:03
 
If you don't like it. Don't use  ...   oh God here we go again   
Mike
Jun 10, 2009, 15:44:32
 
It's not a big issue at all.The core ...   Re: a big issue that people are ignoring   
Jim
Jun 10, 2009, 16:34:23
 
> ... Can we all give up on the Novell/M ...   Re: oh God here we go again   
zumarraga
Jun 10, 2009, 16:48:25
 
Don't confuse the two.The "baby" is  ...   The Baby and the Bath water   
GreyGeek
Jun 10, 2009, 16:55:53
 
I agree with this article and two things ...   Here, here and it's one example.   
Spanky
Jun 10, 2009, 17:35:35
 
I've already removed all Mono parts  ...   is removing Mono going to do anything   
barney
Jun 10, 2009, 17:36:13
 
> The reason Ubuntu and other user frien ...   Re: Here we go again...   
Rufus Polson
Jun 10, 2009, 17:47:08
 
> Zealots that are completely against co ...   Re: oh God here we go again   
Rufus Polson
Jun 10, 2009, 17:59:36
 
> I agree with this article and two thin ...   Re: Here, here and it's one example.   
Chris Morgan
Jun 10, 2009, 18:12:43
 
As a programmer I like to be continually ...   Non-programmers dictating what languages we should   
Richard Dale
Jun 10, 2009, 18:19:54
 
By having MONO installed by default, Ubu ...   Barney gets it.   
k1773r37f
Jun 10, 2009, 18:23:52
 
> I totally agree with your stance on Mo ...   Re: a big issue that people are ignoring   
Chris Morgan
Jun 10, 2009, 18:26:37
 
> Yes, there are other things, things th ...   Re: Barney gets it.   
Chris Morgan
Jun 10, 2009, 18:35:50
 
I don't have all that much against a ...   It shouldn't be a default install   
Charles Hixson
Jun 10, 2009, 19:24:35
 
The issue is not whether Mono should be  ...   Mono fans missing the point again   
Carla Schroder
Jun 10, 2009, 19:51:19
 
 Just wanted to point out that mono is f ...   Re: Re: Here, here and it's one example.   
GreyGeek
Jun 10, 2009, 19:58:33
 
> The issue is not whether Mono should b ...   Re: Mono fans missing the point again   
AMonoGuy
Jun 10, 2009, 20:41:03
 
Wine allows us to run already existing W ...   Wine is not comparable   
justin
Jun 10, 2009, 20:51:51
 
> I for one am tired of some people tryi ...   Re: Here we go again...   
Imric
Jun 10, 2009, 20:58:52
 
... use the gNewSense distro ... all the ...   If you don't like it ...   
Chief Ernie
Jun 10, 2009, 21:01:24
 
> If you don't like it. Don't us ...   Re: oh God here we go again   
Imric
Jun 10, 2009, 21:14:26
 
I have not seen any. Yet I keep hearing  ...   Please point me to the .Net software.   
Phil
Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40
 
ROFL - so packagers=programmers?  Where  ...   Re: Non-programmers dictating what languages we sh   
Imric
Jun 10, 2009, 21:25:15
 
>  Just wanted to point out that mono is ...   Re: Re: Re: Here, here and it's one example.   
Chris Morgan
Jun 10, 2009, 21:25:29
 
> Wine allows us to run already existing ...   Re: Wine is not comparable   
Chris Morgan
Jun 10, 2009, 21:30:18
 
> > Yes, there are other things, things  ...   Re: Re: Barney gets it.   
Imric
Jun 10, 2009, 21:31:02
 
> I for one am tired of some people tryi ...   Re: Here we go again...   
patrick_darcy
Jun 10, 2009, 21:35:39
 
> ... use the gNewSense distro ... all t ...   Re: If you don't like it ...   
Imric
Jun 10, 2009, 21:38:03
 
> The issue is not whether Mono should b ...   Re: Mono fans missing the point again   
auser
Jun 10, 2009, 22:56:47
 
Question? Do I have to be a Microsoft cr ...   Prereq, for participating in this thread?   
turtlewax
Jun 11, 2009, 00:57:59
 
> Don't like Ubuntu, Fedora, or any  ...   Re: The Baby and the Bath water   
Mike
Jun 11, 2009, 01:19:57
 
This is an amazing thread. Not one singl ...   So, no answer to simple question?   
Carla Schroder
Jun 11, 2009, 01:20:44
 
The issue is the patents, and what Micro ...   It doesn't matter whether Mono is "Open Source   
Bernard Swiss
Jun 11, 2009, 01:29:49
 
When I made that last post, I wasn't ...   Sorry Carla   
Bernard Swiss
Jun 11, 2009, 01:34:45
 
> > > Yes, there are other things, thing ...   Re: Re: Re: Barney gets it.   
Chris Morgan
Jun 11, 2009, 01:43:29
 
> I have not seen any. Yet I keep hearin ...   Re: Please point me to the .Net software.   
Chris Morgan
Jun 11, 2009, 01:55:38
 
> When I made that last post, I wasn&#39 ...   Re: Sorry Carla   
Carla Schroder
Jun 11, 2009, 03:09:31
 
> Wine allows us to run already existing ...   Re: Wine is not comparable   
Andreas Mohr
Jun 11, 2009, 09:27:10
 
Imric wrote:ROFL - so packagers=programm ...   Phil Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40 Re: Non-   
Richard Dale
Jun 11, 2009, 10:16:54
 
>> The author of the article wrote this: ...   Re: Phil Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40 Re: No   
Carla Schroder
Jun 11, 2009, 13:47:44
 
Richard Dale said: So if I write a Mono  ...   Phil Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40 Re: Non-   
Richard Dale
Jun 11, 2009, 15:26:56
 
> Richard Dale said: So if I write a Mon ...   Re: Phil Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40 Re: Non-   
Carla Schroder
Jun 11, 2009, 15:56:34
 
I run OpenSuSE, because it is the distri ...   Mono is out. Full stop.   
Hans Bezemer
Jun 11, 2009, 16:18:36
 
"Microsoft may try to go after Mono but  ...   Re: re: re: re: Here, here, it is one example   
Don Whitbeck
Jun 11, 2009, 16:22:39
 
You basically restated all of my points  ...   Re: Re: Please point me to the .Net software.   
Phil
Jun 11, 2009, 16:33:59
 
To me, this debate is exactly the same a ...   Re: Phil Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40 Re: Non-   
auser
Jun 11, 2009, 16:38:20
 
Some advocates of Mono point to the fact ...   wine is not a good comparison.   
hans paijmas
Jun 11, 2009, 16:51:31
 
Oh, that's right, I forgot.  Microso ...   Re: Phil Jun 10, 2009, 21:17:40 Re: No   
Imric
Jun 11, 2009, 16:58:22
 
> "Microsoft may try to go after Mono bu ...   Re: Re: re: re: re: Here, here, it is one example   
Chris Morgan
Jun 11, 2009, 17:26:42
 
> You basically restated all of my point ...   Re: Re: Re: Please point me to the .Net software.   
Chris Morgan
Jun 11, 2009, 17:45:54
 
>> So when MS extends .net and adds the  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Here, here and it's one exampl   
Jose_X
Jun 11, 2009, 18:40:59
 
> Question? Do I have to be a Microsoft  ...   Re: Prereq, for participating in this thread?   
blackhole
Jun 11, 2009, 23:47:50
 
VLC Player may well be the best Media pl ...   It's like VLC Player   
The Mad Hatter
Jun 14, 2009, 03:41:40
 
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