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:The Register: MS' Ballmer: Linux is communism
The Register: MS' Ballmer: Linux is communism
Jul 31, 2000, 11 :14 UTC (63 Talkback[s]) (19771 reads)

(Other stories by Graham Lea)

"Steve Ballmer was the only person to raise the issue of Linux when he wrapped up Microsoft's annual financial analysts meeting in Seattle, although he put Sun and Oracle ahead in terms of being stronger competitors. They of course are 'civilised' competitors - but the Linux crowd, in the world of Prez Steve, are communists."

"Ballmer wanted "to emphasise the competitive threat, and in some senses the competitive opportunity, that Linux represents. Linux is a tough competitor. There's no company called Linux, there's barely a Linux road map. Yet Linux sort of springs organically from the earth. And it had, you know, the characteristics of communism that people love so very, very much about it. That is, it's free. [Outlook Express is free, and also sometimes lets strangers share your hard disk - is this anarchism? - Ed] And I'm not trying to make fun of it, because it's a real competitive issue. Today, I would say, we still don't see a lot of Linux competition in most quarters on the desktop, and we see a lot of Linux competition in some server markets. And we could either say, hey, Linux is going to roll over the world, but I don't see that happening. That's not what's going on right now."

"Ballmer though Microsoft should "go back into some of the ISP markets and ASP markets where Linux has been historically strong and start to compete more successfully. Not on price, not on the free nature of our stuff, but as we get better development tools, as we make it easier for people to debug their software, as we have sort of a development approach that facilitates the applications that ISPs have been writing, I think we have a real opportunity to, if you will, push back into some of the markets that have been real Linux strongholds. But Linux has too, with its free price point, and the fact that it runs on the same hardware we do, so we have no hardware advantage versus Linux, which we do tend to have with some of our other competitors, it certainly is something very, very much on our radar screen."

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
>  [Outlook Express is free, and also so ...   OE is NOT free !   
Gil
Jul 31, 2000, 11:42:25
 
> There's no company called Linux... ...   Nobody is everybody   
Enzo
Jul 31, 2000, 11:53:37
 
Au contraire Mr. Ballmer, Linux is all a ...   Linux is about Freedom!   
chip piller
Jul 31, 2000, 12:22:28
 
"[Outlook Express is free, and also some ...   Communism and anarchy.   
Rodney Quaye
Jul 31, 2000, 12:28:54
 
Of course, the analysis breaks down if y ...   Well, maybe a little communistic...   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 31, 2000, 12:40:48
 
*Linux   springs organically from the ea ...   and Windows is democratic, I suppose,   
ballpark
Jul 31, 2000, 12:42:18
 
Welcome to Linux world MR.BALMER...
Som ...   :)))   
Sancar Saran
Jul 31, 2000, 12:50:49
 
... but Linux kernel 2.4 smokes W2K. ...   communism lead to underachievement   
steve
Jul 31, 2000, 13:10:06
 
"Will the dog buy this dogfood?"

Nobo ...   Ballmer's view   
Peter Morris
Jul 31, 2000, 13:28:10
 
Communism : an political system whereby  ...   M$ is communism   
kingy
Jul 31, 2000, 13:39:02
 
> Yet Linux sort of springs organically  ...   Microsoft is Fascist   
Edmond Jane
Jul 31, 2000, 13:44:43
 
Only without the stylish boots. ...   And Microsoft is Fascism   
Nathan Hand
Jul 31, 2000, 13:58:05
 

	Mr. Ballmer clearly doesn't know  ...   Communism? I think not   
JCA
Jul 31, 2000, 14:13:27
 
I'll just say that I think Linux is  ...   well, since my first post was censored....   
worlok
Jul 31, 2000, 14:15:14
 
The editor's note is correct: OE is  ...   Re: OE is NOT free !   
Russell C Pavlicek
Jul 31, 2000, 14:36:34
 
One fundamental ideal of communism is wr ...   Re: Well, maybe a little communistic...   
Mike Cornall
Jul 31, 2000, 14:50:33
 
If linux is communism, MS-Windows is a d ...   Communism?   
Thomas Pfau
Jul 31, 2000, 14:52:57
 
Linux (or Open Source, for that matter)  ...   not hardly   
James E. LaBarre
Jul 31, 2000, 14:54:47
 
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?lt ...   RE: Communism. Reference this.   
Nicholas Donovan
Jul 31, 2000, 14:58:30
 
I have a big prize, of a smack in the he ...   lots of fud in the air tonight   
geoff lane
Jul 31, 2000, 15:00:24
 
Steve Balmer knows not what he speaks.
 ...   Microsoft is Fascism   
Gabriel Weisner
Jul 31, 2000, 15:17:27
 
What is it about our enlightened New Wor ...   Commies! Commies! Commies!   
Mike Rasmusson
Jul 31, 2000, 15:28:33
 
And linux is chaotic neutral with 18/00  ...   M$ is Lawful Evil   
PJ
Jul 31, 2000, 15:30:41
 
Celebrations were held today as Linux to ...   Celebrations were held today...   
Brandioch Conner
Jul 31, 2000, 15:31:00
 
As a former USMC Officer, combat Veteran ...   This is insulting to Veterans   
Nicholas Donovan
Jul 31, 2000, 15:31:21
 
Hello all!

What Mr. Balmer fails to u ...   The hardware revolution   
Mark Veltzer
Jul 31, 2000, 15:38:30
 
Makes me laugh to think that this guy ge ...   Makes me laugh   
klax
Jul 31, 2000, 15:45:42
 
Superb post, Mike! ...   Re: Re: Well, maybe a little communistic...   
Howard B. Golden
Jul 31, 2000, 15:51:36
 
it's a needed component of Outlook 2 ...   OE isn't free...   
yuri vil
Jul 31, 2000, 15:54:08
 
Everything you said is true, but I stand ...   Re: Re: Well, maybe a little communistic...Calm do   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 31, 2000, 15:57:50
 
> What is it about our enlightened New W ...   Re: Commies! Commies! Commies!   
Bobby D. Bryant
Jul 31, 2000, 16:09:50
 
Although that reference about Linux bein ...   I would rather call Linux anarchism in action.   
Daniel Silva
Jul 31, 2000, 16:11:06
 
> In fact Linux is more like the town ha ...   Re: Microsoft is Fascism   
Bobby D. Bryant
Jul 31, 2000, 16:15:12
 
Linux is an OS by the people for the peo ...   Yeah ... Right   
Buddy Bear
Jul 31, 2000, 16:18:40
 
I just wanted to say some things I left  ...   I would rather call Linux anarchism in action.part   
Daniel Silva
Jul 31, 2000, 16:39:05
 
Semper Fi, Nick. ...   RE: This is insulting to Veterans   
PJ
Jul 31, 2000, 16:42:21
 
You can't see it, but I'm giving ...   Re: This is insulting to Veterans   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 31, 2000, 17:02:27
 
I'm sorry if it appeared that I was  ...   Re: Re: Re: Well, maybe a little communistic...Cal   
Mike Cornall
Jul 31, 2000, 17:11:36
 
Oooh- Rahh, Devil Dog.  Well said. ...   re:This is insulting to Veterans   
davidd
Jul 31, 2000, 17:42:35
 
Linux is not anarchism either.

Linux  ...   Re: I would rather call Linux anarchism in action.   
Mike Cornall
Jul 31, 2000, 17:53:36
 
and Stevie is busy dissembling about wha ...   OE is anarcho-syndicalist totalitarianism   
greaper
Jul 31, 2000, 18:05:57
 
act as a chorus to echo his remarks.  A  ...   Ballmer says "Commnist" and all the media psychoph   
Jerry Kreps
Jul 31, 2000, 18:17:08
 
He has nothing more to say than waving a ...   Panic.   
Alessandro Coppo
Jul 31, 2000, 18:31:28
 
> If OE was really free, computer users  ...   Re: OE is NOT free !   
Myddrin
Jul 31, 2000, 18:41:15
 
> Oh, and :^) 
> It never left. 

Tha ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Well, maybe a little communistic..   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 31, 2000, 19:27:55
 
Mike,

You wrote :

"Throughout hist ...   Re: Re: I would rather call Linux anarchism in act   
Fred Mobach
Jul 31, 2000, 19:56:26
 
No one can take anything when it is thei ...   Existance   
Death
Jul 31, 2000, 20:20:58
 
a good example of Libertairianism.
 ...   Actually, I would call Linux...   
Mark
Jul 31, 2000, 20:43:02
 
Under communism no one has the right to  ...   GNU is the exact opposite of Communism.   
Jimmy the Geek
Jul 31, 2000, 21:06:18
 
A compassionit conservative, like I am a ...   And Ballmer is   
Samuel D. Taylor
Jul 31, 2000, 21:32:45
 
The socialist / communist angle gets con ...   Common Misconception   
Timothy M. Shead
Jul 31, 2000, 22:02:17
 
> Linux is not anarchism either.
> 
>  ...   Re: Re: I would rather call Linux anarchism in act   
Daniel Silva
Jul 31, 2000, 22:03:13
 
Actually, I would call Linux a pretty da ...   Re: Re: Re: I would rather call Linux anarchism in   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 31, 2000, 22:14:48
 
Don't you get the feeling that some  ...   libertarian/anarchist/communist/syndicalist   
nada
Jul 31, 2000, 23:05:55
 
should be renamed to "Linux Tea Parties" ...   perhaps, Install Fests ...   
G. Richard Raab
Aug 1, 2000, 01:16:41
 
Interestings comments but...

Why not  ...   Communism   
Thinman
Aug 1, 2000, 04:11:42
 
   What I think is important to realise, ...   The XYZ-ISM systems   
ioan gartner
Aug 1, 2000, 05:56:47
 
Mike Cornall again.  Takes a licking and ...   Re: Re: Well, maybe a little communistic...   
anon
Aug 1, 2000, 06:29:49
 
Mr. Balmer didn't know what communis ...   MR. BALLMER, DO YOU REALLY _KNOW_ WHAT COMMUNISM I   
Socrate
Aug 1, 2000, 08:03:22
 
O.K. i have NOT read any book by Marx or ...   Comunism?   
Rudy
Aug 1, 2000, 08:39:42
 
> No, Linux is communism.  The key simil ...   Re: Re: Re: Well, maybe a little communistic...   
Daniel
Aug 2, 2000, 08:00:40
 
Whatīs in a word, well, in Steve Ballmer ...   MSī Ballmer desperately brands Linux as "Communist   
Rob
Mar 29, 2004, 18:49:20
 
Well I'm not sure thats what happene ...   Re: Re: I would rather call Linux anarchism in act   
Z
May 28, 2007, 09:12:32
 
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