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:UPDATED: Richard Stallman -- Boycott Amazon!
UPDATED: Richard Stallman -- Boycott Amazon!
Dec 22, 1999, 04 :22 UTC (285 Talkback[s]) (151429 reads)

(Other stories by Richard Stallman)

By Richard Stallman

[ The opinions expressed by authors on Linux Today are their own. They speak only for themselves and not for Linux Today. ]

Please do not buy from Amazon

Amazon has obtained a US patent (5,960,411) on an important and obvious idea for E-commerce: the idea that your command in a web browser to buy a certain item can carry along information about your identity. (This works by sending back a "cookie", a kind of ID code that your browser received previously from the same server.) Amazon has sued to block the use of this simple idea, showing that they truly intend to monopolize it. This is an attack against the World Wide Web and against E-commerce in general.

The idea in question is that a company can give you something which you can subsequently show them to identify yourself for credit. This is nothing new: a physical credit card does the same job, after all. But the US Patent Office issues patents on obvious and well-known ideas every day. Sometimes the result is a disaster.

Today Amazon is suing one large company. If this were just a dispute between two companies, it would not be an important public issue. But the patent gives Amazon the power over anyone who runs a web site in the US (and any other countries that give them similar patents)--power to control all use of this technique. Although only one company is being sued today, the issue affects the whole Internet.

Amazon is not alone at fault in what is happening. The US Patent Office is to blame for having very low standards, and US courts are to blame for endorsing them. And US patent law is to blame for authorizing patents on computational techniques and patterns of communication--a policy that is harmful in general. (See lpf.ai.mit.edu for more information about this issue.)

Foolish government policies gave Amazon the opportunity--but an opportunity is not an excuse. Amazon made the choice to obtain this patent, and the choice to use it in court for aggression. The ultimate moral responsibility for Amazon's actions lies with Amazon's executives.

We can hope that the court will find this patent is legally invalid, Whether they do so will depend on detailed facts and obscure technicalities. The patent uses piles of semirelevent detail to make this "invention" look like something subtle.

But we do not have to wait passively for the court to decide the freedom of E-commerce. There is something we can do right now: we can refuse to do business with Amazon. Please do not buy anything from Amazon until they promise to stop using this patent to threaten or restrict other web sites.

If you are the author of a book sold by Amazon, you can provide powerful help to this campaign by putting this text into the "author comment" about your book, on Amazon's web site. Please send mail to amazon@gnu.org when you do this, and please tell us what happens afterward.

Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
MacArthur Fellow

Copyright 1999 Richard Stallman Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire article is permitted provided this notice is preserved.


Reply to Jason Fletcher (December 19, 1999)

Jason Fletcher wrote ('A Dissenting Opinion', see below in talkbacks):

I do not agree with RMS on this issue. First, I think he has misinterpreted the issue. Amazon did not patent cookies. Amazon did not patent the idea of cookies. They patented the idea of One-Click shopping.
That is essentially correct: Amazon did not patent cookies. The patent covers the technique needed to support one-click shopping (which is normally implemented using cookies).

It is precisely for trying to monopolize the feature of one-click shopping that I condemn Amazon, and ask you not to do buy from them.

From what I can tell, their claim rests on the strength of two procedural matters, NOT the underlying technology: (1) the reduction of overhead that might drive a customer away, and (2) the reduction of transmissions of sensitive information and thus providing smaller opportunity for information hijacking in transit.
These are the reasons why one-click shopping is a useful feature. They may be the reasons why Amazon wants a monopoly on the feature; they are definitely the reasons why I condemn Amazon for trying to grab that monopoly.

If the feature of one-click shopping were of no particular benefit, the issue would not be worth paying much attention to.

I chose not to name Barnes and Noble in my announcement because the identity of the current defendant is a side issue, and people should not get sidetracked by it. I have no particular sympathy for Barnes and Noble, and if they were sued for some other reason, I would be unlikely to take their side. The important thing about this patent is that it takes a bite out of your freedom and mine--not just that of Barnes and Noble.

I hope that we are wise enough to value our freedom, and stand up for it, undistracted by the fact that the first victim is a large company with no particular claim to our esteem.


Postscript added by Richard Stallman, December 21, 1999

Amazon's response to people who write about the patent contains a subtle misdirection which is worth analyzing:

The patent system is designed to encourage innovation, and we spent thousands of hours developing our 1-ClickŪ shopping feature.
If they did spend thousands of hours, they surely did not spend it thinking of the general technique that the patent covers. So if they are telling the truth, what did they spend those hours doing?

Perhaps they spent some of the time writing the patent application. That task was surely harder than thinking of the technique. Or perhaps they are talking about the time it took designing, writing, testing, and perfecting the scripts and the web pages to handle one-click shopping. That was surely a substantial job. Looking carefully at their words, it seems the "thousands of hours developing" could include either of these two jobs.

But the issue here is not about the details in their particular scripts (which they do not release to us) and web pages (which are copyrighted anyway). The issue here is the general idea, and whether Amazon should have a monopoly on that idea.

Are you, or I, free to spend the necessary hours writing our own scripts, our own web pages, to provide one-click shopping? Even if we are selling something other than books, are we free to do this? That is the question. Amazon seeks to deny us that freedom, with the eager help of a misguided (or worse) US government.

When Amazon sends out cleverly misleading statements like the one quoted above, it demonstrates something important: they do care what the public thinks of their actions. They must care--they are a retailer. Public disgust can affect their profits.

People have pointed out that the problem of software patents is much bigger than Amazon, that other companies might have acted just the same, and that boycotting Amazon won't directly change patent law. Of course, these are all true. But that is no argument against this boycott!

If we mount the boycott strongly and lastingly, Amazon may eventually make a concession to end it. And even if they do not, the next company which has an outrageous software patent and considers suing someone will realize there can be a price to pay. They may have second thoughts.

The boycott can also indirectly help change patent law--by calling attention to the issue and spreading demand for change. And it is so easy to participate that there is no need to be deterred on that account. If you agree about the issue, why NOT boycott Amazon?

To help spread the word, please put a note about the boycott on your own personal web page, and make a link to http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html. Updated information will be placed there.


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
As RMS said, US has to change the way th ...   US Patents   
raph
Dec 13, 1999, 20:00:56
 
I have recently done business with Amazo ...   Disappointed in Amazon   
Bake Timmons
Dec 13, 1999, 20:04:04
 
If you buy a CD and don't like it, y ...   another reason to boycott   
Anon
Dec 13, 1999, 20:12:53
 
Here is a company that owes its very exi ...   Such hypocrisy!   
George Mitchell
Dec 13, 1999, 20:22:45
 
I bought over $600 worth of stuff from A ...   Refused to buy stuff from Amazon   
Kent
Dec 13, 1999, 20:25:40
 
And don't forget that they are known ...   SpamAzon.com   
Thomas Corriher
Dec 13, 1999, 20:32:40
 
I found the text of the patent at:

ht ...   Re: US Patents   
Stuart Scharf
Dec 13, 1999, 20:35:49
 
The 'word' you are looking for i ...   Re: US Patents   
Jeff Rankine
Dec 13, 1999, 20:42:08
 
Politely - i.e., very politely - send em ...   Another suggestion   
jagular
Dec 13, 1999, 20:42:10
 
If you buy a CD and don't like it, y ...   Re: another reason to boycott   
Ted Clark
Dec 13, 1999, 20:42:43
 
I've emptied my shopping cart at ama ...   Boycott these bastards   
bob niederman
Dec 13, 1999, 20:48:25
 
Talk about the obvious being patented.   ...   Boycott   
ams
Dec 13, 1999, 21:07:02
 
The patent office says it was filed in 1 ...   Filed 1997?   
Kevin
Dec 13, 1999, 21:08:00
 
I, for one, would like to know a little  ...   Somebody please provide a link to the case   
Jason Fletcher
Dec 13, 1999, 21:17:38
 
I agree 100% with RMS.  My newly formed  ...   class action   
James Ryan
Dec 13, 1999, 21:18:14
 
Just canceled my Christmas order and tol ...   Boycott   
Brian Foley
Dec 13, 1999, 21:41:41
 
To really make a statement, place your o ...   Really Make A Statement   
sporter
Dec 13, 1999, 21:42:54
 
bn.com because they too want to use the  ...   Amazon is suing Barnes and Nobles   
Jonathan Geach
Dec 13, 1999, 21:46:05
 
From reading the patent application, it  ...   One Click   
Budd Gardner
Dec 13, 1999, 21:50:01
 
	This is getting tricky. I stopped order ...   Greedy Amazonians   
JCA
Dec 13, 1999, 21:54:22
 
Having been involved in a couple of soft ...   The difference between getting and defending a pat   
dinotrac
Dec 13, 1999, 21:57:16
 
I have read the text of the patent, and  ...   Amazon Boycott   
Tony O'Bryan
Dec 13, 1999, 22:06:33
 
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-147 ...   Info. about suit   
macgupta
Dec 13, 1999, 22:11:08
 
Amazon founded this idea when ecommerce  ...   I disagree   
Ed
Dec 13, 1999, 22:21:19
 
The Linux nation cannot stop the million ...   RMS is being ludicrous   
Roland
Dec 13, 1999, 22:27:41
 
I completely agree with RMS. The abuse o ...   Amazon boycot   
JP Brahma
Dec 13, 1999, 22:35:30
 
How do we make Amazon.com aware of this  ...   Great Idea! But...   
Billy Antigates
Dec 13, 1999, 22:47:11
 
Amazon's patented 1-click bull-DELET ...   Re: Please....   
Rob
Dec 13, 1999, 22:48:07
 
For the reasons which Richard M. Stallma ...   Text of my comment to feedback@amazon.com:   
Fra. 219
Dec 13, 1999, 22:48:32
 
IANAL, but my understanding is that thei ...   Re: I disagree   
David
Dec 13, 1999, 22:52:12
 
Let's patent the idea of lodging a p ...   Let's patent ...   
Ian MacKinnell
Dec 13, 1999, 23:20:30
 
Amazon.com of course is now selling more ...   Alternatives for books.   
AJWM
Dec 13, 1999, 23:33:09
 
Huh?  First of all, RMS != Linux.  Also, ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Rick F
Dec 13, 1999, 23:54:46
 
AllDirect is another online bookstore wi ...   Another alternative...   
Fra. 219
Dec 14, 1999, 00:05:06
 
www.bookpool.com - their prices are usua ...   Re: Alternatives for books.   
Steve
Dec 14, 1999, 00:06:05
 
I disagree with the arguement that this  ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Steve Wolfe
Dec 14, 1999, 00:18:08
 
http://www.dealpilot.com/ comparison sho ...   An alternative shopping site   
The Scarecrow Repairman
Dec 14, 1999, 00:24:27
 
Been there, bought that. Goodbye Amazon, ...   Add me   
Paul
Dec 14, 1999, 00:46:17
 
Like Ed said...why didn't ANYONE ELS ...   Re: Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Roland
Dec 14, 1999, 00:48:43
 
To anyone out there who says "well why d ...   This is why they didn't patent it.   
Peter Thatcher
Dec 14, 1999, 01:34:08
 
This broken "patenting the obvious" cust ...   Let's patent PI   
Francesco Paparella
Dec 14, 1999, 01:56:11
 
Check this site out, and let me know wha ...   Article may be irrelevant ....   
Ack
Dec 14, 1999, 02:50:51
 
Don't buy from Barnes and Noble, eit ...   DO NOT BUY FROM BARNES AND NOBLE   
Art Cancro
Dec 14, 1999, 03:18:38
 
My husband and I use the Amazon for our  ...   Hello, bn.com!   
JC
Dec 14, 1999, 04:35:21
 
Be sure to send a nasty little missive t ...   Re: Refused to buy stuff from Amazon   
Francis Pinteric
Dec 14, 1999, 05:34:32
 
If you think amazon invented this, or re ...   Re: I disagree   
Toklas Dasmitavitch
Dec 14, 1999, 05:43:00
 
You mean they can put doubleclick-akami  ...   Amazon patented cookies? Cool.   
sneezy
Dec 14, 1999, 05:56:00
 
We should all buy our books here.  Norma ...   www.bookpool.com   
Matt Sturing
Dec 14, 1999, 05:57:08
 
The main problem here is the fact that t ...   USPTO, Huh?   
David Shifflet
Dec 14, 1999, 06:04:11
 
The activities of the Patent Office have ...   Count me in   
Data
Dec 14, 1999, 06:14:00
 
Hmmm... I wonder what this means. We sho ...   I agree w/ RMS for once!   
Jay Thomas
Dec 14, 1999, 06:21:47
 
Better yet, go down to your local mom an ...   mom and pop   
Michael Morrison
Dec 14, 1999, 06:32:30
 
It's hardly unique. If it were uniqu ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
AlHAz
Dec 14, 1999, 06:33:28
 
I am SO totally with RMS on this. I thin ...   Finally, RMS gets some respect!   
Peter R. Schmitt
Dec 14, 1999, 06:43:34
 
Please! Nice feature? Yes. Unique? Not h ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Troy
Dec 14, 1999, 06:45:20
 
(Transcription of my e-mail sent to "ass ...   I suspended my Associate Program   
Francisco Burzi
Dec 14, 1999, 06:53:55
 
Why didn't anybody else do it first? ...   Re: Re: Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
AlHaz
Dec 14, 1999, 07:04:53
 
  I think I will try and patent the whee ...   I would like the wheel   
James
Dec 14, 1999, 07:15:39
 
Ed said "....just because it's now a ...   Re: I disagree   
Terry E Trapp
Dec 14, 1999, 07:24:43
 
www.noamazon.com is a protest site with  ...   NoAmazon.com   
Matt Foley
Dec 14, 1999, 07:52:21
 
Even if they get their act together I wi ...   No more Amazon for me   
Atif
Dec 14, 1999, 07:58:14
 
You may want to use http://www.cs.cmu.ed ...   Button & email   
SP
Dec 14, 1999, 08:07:51
 
Yes it is high time someone did somethin ...   Please do something about US patenting Laws   
LID
Dec 14, 1999, 08:29:08
 
  I wrote a cookie based shopping card i ...   Prior art?   
Glen Harris
Dec 14, 1999, 08:48:31
 
A brief look at the following search eng ...   Search engines that link to Amazon   
Art Sackett
Dec 14, 1999, 08:55:32
 
 It didn't take a rocket scientist t ...   Re: I disagree   
hogwaller
Dec 14, 1999, 09:44:22
 
no no,  they didn't patent cookies,  ...   Re: Amazon patented cookies? Cool.   
lbs
Dec 14, 1999, 09:47:52
 
ah.. but the more ingenuitive would atta ...   Re: Re: I disagree   
Giles
Dec 14, 1999, 09:53:22
 
Richard Stallman has given us the opport ...   Join the boycott, tell your friends   
luis
Dec 14, 1999, 09:54:53
 
Just cancelled my order and placed it wi ...   Quite silly .....   
A. Vardag
Dec 14, 1999, 10:01:34
 
If you want to make a lot of money,go ou ...   Patented Cookies   
Rudolph Terblanche
Dec 14, 1999, 10:17:15
 
I'm sure many/most here would agree  ...   Challenge not Boycott is best bet.   
Martin S.
Dec 14, 1999, 10:19:29
 
Hey, I may register a patent on how to w ...   patent on how to wear my money   
Michael
Dec 14, 1999, 10:30:03
 

"This is only the most outlandish of th ...   Re: Count me in   
Julien Rousseau
Dec 14, 1999, 11:23:17
 
Or, another idea would be to buy your bo ...   Re: Really Make A Statement   
Iain Wade
Dec 14, 1999, 12:00:36
 
Go Amazon!! 'Bout 2 weeks ago we had ...   Re: Patented Cookies   
Mike Manchip
Dec 14, 1999, 12:47:45
 
www.uk.bol.com is what I use nowadays, I ...   Don't forget BOL   
Philip Hibbs
Dec 14, 1999, 13:12:48
 
I knew this would happen.  The patent of ...   Student woes   
Dave Leimbach
Dec 14, 1999, 13:26:57
 
RMS has gone out of his mind.  Amazon is ...   This is Ridiculous   
jay c.
Dec 14, 1999, 13:32:40
 
I decided for myself to stop buying anyt ...   I didn't need to be told   
Brian Westphal
Dec 14, 1999, 13:53:14
 
Because it was just awarded this year... ...   Re: Filed 1997?   
mystidear
Dec 14, 1999, 13:55:31
 
How could an organization as well funded ...   Governmental Plea ...   
J Dever
Dec 14, 1999, 14:32:32
 
macgupta, thanks for providing the link  ...   A dissenting opinion   
Jason Fletcher
Dec 14, 1999, 14:36:32
 
Because it's a dumb idea... ...   Re: Re: Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Troll
Dec 14, 1999, 14:38:26
 
(Boycott) Indeed - stop the game being f ...   a very appropriate response   
Richard Smith
Dec 14, 1999, 14:43:58
 
It appears that Richard Stallmanm has a  ...   Why does the author of this not mention anything s   
Xavier
Dec 14, 1999, 14:52:04
 
Drat! I was just about to file for an in ...   Re: Amamzon Patent   
Keith Johnson
Dec 14, 1999, 14:58:41
 
My god you really have no clue on how co ...   Re: Re: Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
nye liu
Dec 14, 1999, 15:01:00
 
>Amazon founded this idea when ecommerce ...   Re: I disagree   
karl p.
Dec 14, 1999, 15:06:17
 
Amazon executives,I wonder how it feels  ...   I'm in   
Marc
Dec 14, 1999, 15:10:21
 
On the note of free sig ads for Amazon c ...   Price comparison engines   
Leif Arne Storset
Dec 14, 1999, 15:11:39
 
hey, why doesn't amazon patent "sell ...   stupid patents   
andrew
Dec 14, 1999, 15:36:41
 
Concentrate on selling books, and stay o ...   You should be in selling books business   
Long H.
Dec 14, 1999, 15:43:05
 
... that what sounds like a pretty intel ...   Hard to believe...   
J.B. Wood
Dec 14, 1999, 15:43:47
 
When you shop compare in situations like ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
md_doc
Dec 14, 1999, 15:57:12
 
You write:> ...reasons for obtaining pat ...   Re: The difference between getting and defending a   
Jon
Dec 14, 1999, 16:02:23
 
Reality check: We are not talking about  ...   Re: I disagree   
Nick Bauman
Dec 14, 1999, 16:19:09
 
I've been using them ever since Amaz ...   www.bookpool.com   
Nick Bauman
Dec 14, 1999, 16:24:52
 
hey... so what if amazon has a patent on ...   SO WHAT   
Peter
Dec 14, 1999, 16:26:25
 
Perhaps, but patenting the concept of "H ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Tim Gray
Dec 14, 1999, 16:26:48
 
I don't blame Amazon one bit for fil ...   proper course for Amazon   
J-J Cote
Dec 14, 1999, 16:32:13
 
The issue here is not sticking it to the ...   Re: Hard to believe...   
Erik Nielsen
Dec 14, 1999, 16:35:10
 
From reading the patent application, it  ...   Re: One Click   
Michael Powe
Dec 14, 1999, 16:35:36
 

Although I completely agree that this  ...   I am not boycotting Amazon.   
diva
Dec 14, 1999, 16:47:39
 
RMS good. Amazon bad. Free software good ...   RMS RMS RMS RMS RMS RMS   
A. Balchkar
Dec 14, 1999, 16:57:32
 
I cannot tell you why the author did not ...   Re: Why does the author of this not mention anythi   
Flak Magnet
Dec 14, 1999, 17:12:52
 
here's a way to counter this trend:  ...   here's a thought...   
Samuel Upton
Dec 14, 1999, 17:22:37
 
How come Amazon hasn't sued the USPT ...   USPTO IN VIOLATION OF AMAZON PATENT!!!   
Brian Strand
Dec 14, 1999, 18:21:53
 
So, by Flak Magnet's reasoning, a co ...   Re: Re: Why does the author of this not mention an   
J.B. Wood
Dec 14, 1999, 18:22:56
 
Amazon.com has no regard for your person ...   Jason Brittain - I've been boycotting them for   
Jason Brittain
Dec 14, 1999, 18:33:50
 
I have created a new patent, it's ca ...   Hey I have a new patent!   
Ty Rosenow
Dec 14, 1999, 18:45:50
 
I was rather proud of a parallel I drew  ...   a good way of explaining it   
Jonathan Burdge
Dec 14, 1999, 19:09:45
 
someone created cookies to use them as y ...   thats what cookies are for.   
RBreve
Dec 14, 1999, 19:18:00
 
From what you say, it doesn't look l ...   Do you know what you are talking about?   
Mathieu
Dec 14, 1999, 19:27:20
 
> Like Ed said...why didn't ANYONE E ...   Re: Re: Re: RMS is being ludicrous   

Dec 14, 1999, 19:34:41
 
We share everyone's concern over the ...   Alternatives to Amazon.com   
Jeff Roberts
Dec 14, 1999, 19:35:55
 
My Amazon.com shares lost value due to S ...   Boycott Stallman   
jan H. Leverenz
Dec 14, 1999, 19:37:25
 
I'm sure that Amazon'a own serve ...   Re: I disagree   
Nacho de los Ríos
Dec 14, 1999, 20:07:03
 
to:  the complaint that Stallman's " ...   Re: Boycott Stallman   
Elissa Feit
Dec 14, 1999, 20:15:35
 
Maybe the GNU license should be altered  ...   GNU license alteration for defense   
Nacho de los Rios
Dec 14, 1999, 20:15:37
 
I sent Amazon an email expressing my dis ...   Response from Amazon   
jagular
Dec 14, 1999, 20:54:30
 
A bad idea to sue www activities with re ...   Don't monopolize   
Dr. Thomas Froehlich
Dec 14, 1999, 21:14:00
 
What was the date of the patent filing?  ...   Prior Art   
Jeremey Barrett
Dec 14, 1999, 21:29:26
 
At 16:26:25 on 1999-12-14 Peter wrote:
> ...   Re: SO WHAT   
Levi
Dec 14, 1999, 21:30:57
 
What address did you send to at amazon?  ...   Re: Response from Amazon   
Jeremey Barrett
Dec 14, 1999, 21:33:14
 
> "My shares in amazon lost value becaus ...   Re: Boycott Stallman   
Giles
Dec 14, 1999, 21:46:58
 
Richard is right, this patent stuff is o ...   Patents Enclosing the Commons   
Jack Woehr
Dec 14, 1999, 22:07:07
 
This rash of patents thanks to the clint ...   RMS is ON THE BALL with this!!!   
Justin
Dec 14, 1999, 23:25:31
 
we spent thousands of hours developing o ...   Re: Response from Amazon   
AJWM
Dec 14, 1999, 23:41:08
 
I made this decision the SECOND I read a ...   HERE HERE!   
Michael Douglass
Dec 14, 1999, 23:45:05
 
It's not a matter of trying to paten ...   Re: Re: Re: Why does the author of this not mentio   
mmessall
Dec 15, 1999, 00:29:34
 
It was RMS that started the GNU project. ...   Why does everybody hate RMS?   
Anonymous Coward
Dec 15, 1999, 00:59:59
 
>Sure, the one-click is nice. But what h ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous - NOT!   
DS Blank
Dec 15, 1999, 01:36:34
 
Richard is the (may be the last) hope fo ...   Richard Stallman for President!   
AP
Dec 15, 1999, 02:58:12
 
CD Margins low?  Well... CDs have been t ...   Re: Re: another reason to boycott   
Budman
Dec 15, 1999, 03:16:41
 
Dude,You might be more believable and co ...   Re: Re: SO WHAT   
Walking Spellchecker
Dec 15, 1999, 04:12:02
 
I remember years ago that the Weed whack ...   Weed Whacker   
Walter Peterson
Dec 15, 1999, 04:24:44
 
boycotting Amazon does not solve anythin ...   Hitting straw men.   
KC
Dec 15, 1999, 05:09:35
 
Here is the text of my message to Amazon ...   suggestions@amazon.com   
Torsten Howard
Dec 15, 1999, 05:14:43
 
As I see it from the debate here, there  ...   who owns which part? call for action   
Anonymous Coward Jr.
Dec 15, 1999, 07:16:13
 
Face it, RMS, if they hadn't done it ...   Boycotting doesn't work, man.   
EMACS
Dec 15, 1999, 07:16:33
 
how about taking responsability for your ...   Re: Boycott Stallman   
sascha mettler
Dec 15, 1999, 08:05:10
 
Has anybody real hard facts, that even t ...   Has anybody hard facts?   
Jochen
Dec 15, 1999, 08:16:27
 
The point is... they did think of it fir ...   Re: This is why they didn't patent it.   
George Jones
Dec 15, 1999, 08:26:01
 
why are you worried about Amazon protect ...   Don't you have anything better to do with your   
Bryan Ferguson
Dec 15, 1999, 09:12:32
 
The Patent is discribed at:

http://16 ...   I've got the hard fact   
Jochen
Dec 15, 1999, 09:15:16
 
Right.If I produce a website that can kn ...   Okay, so whats wrong with this argument?   
Chris Smith
Dec 15, 1999, 10:12:53
 
The HEAD of Amazon was no different from ...   Re: I disagree   
Wizard of Odds
Dec 15, 1999, 12:17:34
 
Of course not, Jochen. It's much mor ...   Re: Has anybody hard facts?   
Jason Fletcher
Dec 15, 1999, 14:20:43
 
After reviewing the patent, I see that t ...   URL of prior art...   
Darren
Dec 15, 1999, 16:59:10
 
I have to say, if they spend _thousands_ ...   Re: Response from Amazon   
Richard Caley
Dec 15, 1999, 17:10:31
 
I can think of nothing I have to do (and ...   Re: Don't you have anything better to do with   
Richard Caley
Dec 15, 1999, 17:21:32
 
The rules for what is patentable states  ...   Obvious   
Walter Peterson
Dec 15, 1999, 17:26:43
 
A search of the U.S. gov's patent da ...   other ridiculous amazon patents   
Casey Perkins
Dec 15, 1999, 18:15:12
 
>Essentially, this is exactly what happe ...   Re: a good way of explaining it   
Ivan Milman
Dec 15, 1999, 19:11:54
 
Subject:Your Feedback to Amazon.com
   F ...   Amazon Reply   
Sridhar Vembu
Dec 15, 1999, 19:53:44
 
I have had first hand experience patenti ...   Patent System   
Sridhar Vembu
Dec 15, 1999, 20:27:47
 
As the webmaster for an e-commerce books ...   Re: I disagree   
Josh Everist
Dec 15, 1999, 21:45:14
 
The real problem is not amazon.com. If l ...   change your laws   
Pablo Gutiérrez Alonso
Dec 16, 1999, 00:49:07
 
In the world of today most companies won ...   It's not amazon, it's the system   
Sean J. Schluntz
Dec 16, 1999, 04:51:29
 
Another idea would be to find "prior art ...   Lars Prins: Help the competition to get the patent   
Lars Prins
Dec 16, 1999, 08:31:37
 
Are you seriously suggesting that Amazon ...   Re: It's not amazon, it's the system   
Richard Caley
Dec 16, 1999, 13:40:49
 
Come on, it takes two hands to clap.  Ju ...   Re: It's not amazon, it's the system   
GongZheng
Dec 16, 1999, 14:09:03
 
These things go on in the industry becau ...   Totally Ridiculous   
Don Goodwin
Dec 16, 1999, 14:19:44
 
... that a lot of people don't under ...   Pretty obvious...   
Skippy
Dec 16, 1999, 22:28:06
 
Here's the response I got back from  ...   Another response from Amazon   
amoore
Dec 17, 1999, 02:52:07
 
Dear All:I would like to express my reac ...   An Author's Reaction to Amazon.Com Practice   
Rajkumar Buyya
Dec 17, 1999, 06:22:06
 
This is crazy!I wont be doing business w ...   I will not buy from Amazon.com anymore.   
Eric
Dec 17, 1999, 12:46:03
 
ok i'll be generous and not try to p ...   i want to patent writing   
hiram
Dec 17, 1999, 12:55:55
 
...but the patent systems worldwide. Why ...   The problem is not AMAZON...   
Uninvited
Dec 17, 1999, 14:34:59
 
You nailed it, Skippy. Finally, someone  ...   Re: Pretty obvious...   
Jason Fletcher
Dec 17, 1999, 15:49:43
 
If some concerned people all chipped in  ...   An idea to combat this patent stupidity...   
Dustin
Dec 17, 1999, 16:58:41
 
Like any well established business, boyc ...   Problem with boycott   
Congo
Dec 18, 1999, 02:56:28
 
Why doesn't Sun Microsystems take Am ...   Cookies Belong to Sun   
KD4SVA
Dec 18, 1999, 04:48:08
 
I agree with you, Stallman. Amazon's ...   A slap on the side of the head   
roland sorensen
Dec 18, 1999, 13:42:32
 
I don't get it - I thought that was  ...   Re: Re: Amazon patented cookies? Cool.   
Me Mazilla
Dec 18, 1999, 16:44:04
 
Amazon.com's predatory practices are ...   Other reasons to boycott Amazon.com   
Conal Ho
Dec 18, 1999, 22:33:06
 
Didn't Xerox sue Apple ONLY to estab ...   sorta related?   
Bill Leach
Dec 18, 1999, 23:14:29
 
Here's your Prior Art: Aug 27, 1997  ...   Prior Art - Netscape Communications   
Tim Neu
Dec 19, 1999, 06:11:33
 
Why so many contradictions?You Write:"Bu ...   Re: A dissenting opinion   
Speng
Dec 19, 1999, 07:23:27
 
"... we spent thousands of hours develop ...   Liars   
Nathan Hand
Dec 19, 1999, 16:03:16
 
You could also boycott Amazon.com by get ...   Real Bookstores   
Clancy
Dec 19, 1999, 17:33:54
 
I've read all the comments, and seen ...   How about an alternate site?   
Chris Hill
Dec 19, 1999, 21:01:32
 
Amazon is a publically held company.  If ...   Blame the patent system   
Anonymous Loser
Dec 20, 1999, 17:01:45
 
Thanks for your reply! Let me see if I c ...   Re: Speng: Re: A Dissenting Opinion   
Jason Fletcher
Dec 20, 1999, 17:29:53
 
If you go to the Patent Office page to r ...   The Patent Office Uses Shopping Carts   
Don Brenneman
Dec 20, 1999, 17:34:02
 
Mr Fletcher, so anyone who agree with RM ...   Re. Mr Fletcher   
PCL
Dec 20, 1999, 20:03:13
 
Sure, I got no problems with buying thin ...   Sure, I will be glad to boycott   
Jason Alexander
Dec 21, 1999, 04:21:29
 
No problem to boycot Amazon, I simply wi ...   amazon   
Jeroen L.M.Winters
Dec 21, 1999, 08:35:22
 
Really, he does. ...   Stallman needs a haircut   
Salman Sheikh
Dec 21, 1999, 18:50:15
 
    Do you really want to do businesses  ...   Re: I am not boycotting Amazon.   
jeffers
Dec 21, 1999, 19:27:31
 
Seems like they meant spending thousands ...   Re: Liars   
Danny Kalev
Dec 22, 1999, 00:44:28
 
Can B&N use a similar but not an identai ...   two clicks   
Danny
Dec 22, 1999, 01:01:31
 
So RMS's entire argument boils down  ...   No no no NO!   
Ed
Dec 22, 1999, 04:57:32
 
http://congress.org/ - I wrote mine, did ...   Write your congressman   
Paul
Dec 22, 1999, 05:34:07
 
I will not buy stuff from Amazon any mor ...   Boycott!   
Fuming
Dec 22, 1999, 05:34:13
 
This boycott is a serious attempt to sen ...   Please consider supporting this boycott   
James Blackwell
Dec 22, 1999, 07:58:32
 
The best thing that can happen at this p ...   C'Mon Richard   
Binko
Dec 22, 1999, 09:12:02
 
Because the GNU community is behind this ...   Dump your Amazon stocks while they're still ov   
dave
Dec 22, 1999, 11:12:24
 
The word "Amazon" used to evoke images o ...   there's plenty of etailers out there   
steve poling
Dec 22, 1999, 13:31:33
 
and a shave.

But so do I, what is your  ...   Stallman needs a haircut....   
Henri Schlereth
Dec 22, 1999, 14:14:29
 
Those of you who mentioned having design ...   Re: Prior art   
Bob Sparks
Dec 22, 1999, 17:15:49
 
There are many reasons for people displi ...   Re: Why does everybody hate RMS?   
Joe Kaplenk
Dec 22, 1999, 17:35:18
 
... and sent them an email explaining wh ...   Started boycotting Amazon ...   
Oolon Colluphid
Dec 22, 1999, 17:36:51
 
There are two problems, software patents ...   abus of patents   
AJ
Dec 22, 1999, 19:29:08
 
If you want to increase the pressure, se ...   Consider Boycotting Amazon's Partners   
Mike Cornall
Dec 23, 1999, 00:59:15
 
>If anything---your cry should be agains ...   Re: No no no NO!   
Phillip Birmingham
Dec 23, 1999, 05:48:03
 
www.rusure.com has a similar search engi ...   Re: Price comparison engines   
Danny
Dec 23, 1999, 06:26:53
 
> If ANYONE allows RMS to push them into ...   Re: No no no NO!   
Mark Christensen
Dec 23, 1999, 07:58:49
 
> What you should be concerned about is  ...   Re: Hard to believe...   
Dave
Dec 23, 1999, 13:12:45
 
There are 2 problems here - Amazon and t ...   1 click lawsuit and patent   
Roy White
Dec 23, 1999, 15:11:53
 
Well the way I see it - Amazon should NO ...   Amazon loses another customer...   
Ben Crews
Dec 23, 1999, 16:09:36
 
'One click' is an event, not a p ...   What is it, really?   
Tom
Dec 23, 1999, 17:36:41
 
I don't quite understand what Amazon ...   This won't work and how does the consumer bene   
Neele Johnston
Dec 23, 1999, 17:56:47
 
Does that mean Netscape (is it Netscape? ...   Patented cookies   
Chee Yeen
Dec 23, 1999, 18:12:29
 
Here is a thought:Remember a few years a ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
Bryan Kemp
Dec 23, 1999, 20:01:26
 
This is not surprsing. Many company' ...   Amazon.crud   
Brad Harper
Dec 23, 1999, 20:03:21
 
Yep..i join the hands in the boycott and ...   amazon.monopoly   
Phalgun
Dec 23, 1999, 21:00:35
 
I am in full support of the boycott!  Th ...   Free Internet Yes, Amazon No!   
Deb L
Dec 24, 1999, 02:55:44
 
REGARDING ONE-CLICK SHOPPING PATENT:Okay ...   My Own New Patent: One Blip Shopping   
Bill Mueller
Dec 24, 1999, 14:27:58
 
I just read this article on how Amazon h ...   Unbelievable   
Dorothy Pizzuti
Dec 24, 1999, 14:46:50
 
For all of you with good ideas who don&# ...   Patents   
Robert Thorne
Dec 24, 1999, 16:42:19
 
I really am fed up with boycot talks, mo ...   Linux and Apple Free Internet   
Nat Lang
Dec 24, 1999, 19:17:04
 
Not that a small community web site in N ...   Dumping Amazon...   
Robert Hantson
Dec 25, 1999, 00:47:29
 
Hurry!, someone patent the wheel before  ...   Hurry   
Framil A.
Dec 25, 1999, 06:07:34
 
How can the US Patent office take such a ...   Ridiculous Patent   
T.Thedford
Dec 25, 1999, 07:51:54
 
WHY SHOULD THEY NOT PANENT THIS IDEA? FO ...   WHY NOT   
DENIS E. CROY
Dec 25, 1999, 17:06:13
 
What is ludicrous is that someone who sh ...   Re: RMS is being ludicrous   
herman munster
Dec 26, 1999, 00:32:29
 
I have been a long time Amazon.com shopp ...   Surprised and disappointed   
Amazon Fan
Dec 26, 1999, 06:49:43
 
These large book distributors not only h ...   boycott all large chains!   
crossfade
Dec 27, 1999, 01:51:33
 
a.  create 'work around' using o ...   patent work around !   
steve roz
Dec 27, 1999, 06:24:10
 
I thought Apple came up with the 1 click ...   Shame   
Private
Dec 27, 1999, 07:50:31
 
I think one of these days someone will t ...   Amazon.com goes crazy   
Sudhir Gandotra
Dec 27, 1999, 11:29:30
 
Go Amazon. If this idea was so easy to d ...   Amazon Patent   
Barry
Dec 27, 1999, 15:43:36
 
I agree with your disagreement.  As an e ...   Re: I disagree   
Eric Newhuis
Dec 27, 1999, 18:19:20
 
  The point here is continuously missed. ...   Re: Please consider supporting this boycott   
David Barnard
Dec 27, 1999, 20:44:35
 
i received an amazon gift certificate fo ...   gift certificates   
Joe Gianoli
Dec 27, 1999, 22:57:02
 
Jeff Bezos is Time's Man of the Year ...   Wow   
Russ
Dec 28, 1999, 00:15:50
 
This will not work. If you read the pate ...   Re: My Own New Patent: One Blip Shopping   
NightHawk
Dec 28, 1999, 04:34:30
 
Everyone is getting off the point of the ...   everyone is getting off the point...   
NightHawk
Dec 28, 1999, 04:49:58
 
Has anyone noticed that this same bunch  ...   Attempt to patent the concept of relational databa   
kpb
Dec 28, 1999, 18:28:45
 
I agree completely!! Patents need to be  ...   Ditto For PriceLine   
Greg Jones
Dec 28, 1999, 18:41:20
 
Why blame the U.S. Patent Office? Govern ...   Blame?   
Hugh T. Miller
Dec 28, 1999, 20:21:23
 
A patent, I believe, covers how one' ...   US Patent Law   
Colin Dellow
Dec 29, 1999, 09:42:47
 
Amazing; RMS himself actually responded  ...   Re: Update   
Jason Fletcher
Dec 29, 1999, 16:17:17
 
The Amazon lawsuit makes perfect sense.  ...   Amazon lawsuit   
cgm
Dec 30, 1999, 05:15:19
 
When you shop in a conventional store (I ...   Re: I disagree   
eric@esc.rosemere.qc.ca
Dec 30, 1999, 06:18:41
 
Amazon get a patent on an IDEA.Patents i ...   My view of patents   
Eric Prevost-Dansereau
Dec 30, 1999, 08:10:18
 
Ideas can't be patented. (Right?) ...   Re: I disagree   
Martin Gugino
Dec 30, 1999, 14:33:04
 
I complained to Amazon and got a form re ...   Prior art   
Richard Frith-Macdonald
Jan 1, 2000, 17:11:13
 
The margins on CD's are outstanding. ...   Re: Re: another reason to boycott   
Dan Bader
Jan 1, 2000, 21:38:27
 
Note that the RedHat GeekToys page still ...   RedHat still linking to amazon.com   
Ken Bauer
Jan 2, 2000, 05:00:27
 
I would certainly contact B&N about it a ...   Re: Prior art   
Danny Kalev
Jan 4, 2000, 14:26:40
 
How can Barnes & Noble local store survi ...   I support www.bn.com   
Aaron kao
Jan 6, 2000, 03:07:05
 
Nope, as a resident of DC, we have no vo ...   Re: Write your congressman   
Rex
Jan 7, 2000, 18:59:20
 
One-click shopping is handy, but Amazon  ...   Now Amazon experience no-click shopping!   
Paul Crowley
Jan 8, 2000, 11:44:54
 
I just skimmed through the patent docume ...   Re: Prior art   
David Haworth
Jan 10, 2000, 13:48:59
 
In 1993 a patent (5,214,689) was issued  ...   It's happened before...   
douglas m anderson
Jan 11, 2000, 21:51:37
 
Good one Paul ...   Re: Now Amazon experience no-click shopping!   
Hanh Nguyen
Jan 14, 2000, 01:22:37
 
How effective do you think a boycott Ama ...   How effective is a boycott?   
Steve
Jan 14, 2000, 14:19:42
 
Regarding patenting pi, and for a little ...   Re: Let's patent PI   
John de Boer
Jan 14, 2000, 19:20:58
 
Errm... no, your shares didn't lose  ...   Re: Boycott Stallman   
John de Boer
Jan 14, 2000, 19:23:54
 
"But don't castigate Amazon for doin ...   Re: No no no NO!   
John de Boer
Jan 14, 2000, 19:36:52
 
I stopped buying anything from Amazon in ...   Amazon   
James Washburn
Jan 19, 2000, 01:35:16
 
I'm glad I came across this page tod ...   Already started...   
No Thanks
Jan 20, 2000, 16:08:24
 
In his reply "gift certificates", Joe Gi ...   24/7 digital commercialism   
bored
Jan 21, 2000, 04:05:03
 
there are other reasons to boycott amazo ...   amazon.com and the like   
robert davy
Jan 25, 2000, 03:54:31
 
To help Amazon quantify the cost of maki ...   Quantify the value of Amazon boycott   
E. Presley
Jan 25, 2000, 07:31:03
 
I entirely agree with Richard Stallman&# ...   Amazon's Patent Application   
Keith Lane
Feb 4, 2000, 00:16:07
 
I concur. I purchased quite a bit from A ...   Re: Surprised and disappointed   
Nimmi Ragavan
Feb 17, 2000, 12:12:39
 
Amazon has used a simple idea to make sh ...   Bizarre Protest   
Mark O\\'Leary
Feb 23, 2000, 12:04:44
 
nowebpatent.orgKeine Webpatente Also ich ...   PROTEST   
Robert Gehringer
Feb 28, 2000, 21:28:12
 
I will not buy from Amazon anymore. No-c ...   Screw Amazon   
Ben Abraham
Feb 29, 2000, 17:48:11
 
Seems to me that this is like patenting  ...   *** NO SUBJECT ***   
Brandon Johnson
Feb 29, 2000, 22:47:50
 
A friend of mine owns the URL www.onecli ...   www.oneclickworld.com   
Ender
Mar 1, 2000, 13:18:31
 
If we want e-commerce to succeed the one ...   boycott Amazon!   
Lou Jones
Mar 2, 2000, 14:19:12
 
For an additional analysis of how and wh ...   More info on patent office problems   
Jim Leth
Mar 2, 2000, 17:03:02
 
I'm wondering what exactly is in the ...   Seattle   
Archella
Mar 2, 2000, 19:50:39
 
C'mon People! Amazon has to justify  ...   ...and your point is???   
Brian
Mar 6, 2000, 03:30:55
 
The problem with that argument is copyri ...   Re: Bizarre Protest   
A Knight in Tarnished Armor
Mar 6, 2000, 07:39:12
 
I already boycott Amazon! Why? 'Caus ...   amazon.noncomprende   
Grindelia
Mar 31, 2000, 04:09:30
 
Big warehouses can sell just about anyth ...   Warehouse Bookstore Cheaper than Amazon.com   
Td Rerty
Nov 6, 2000, 02:33:24
 
I do not clearly understand your sentenc ...   Re: i want to patent writing   
joanne
Jul 19, 2005, 02:08:13
 
amazon.com has a supposed policy of free ...   Re: Other reasons to boycott Amazon.com   
tricked at Union City
Jun 6, 2007, 01:35:18
 
Hey, you hit on a point that is much of  ...   Your Point   
Erik
Dec 30, 2008, 19:09:57
 
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