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:Jeremy Allison: Microsoft document kerberos PAC format - with a catch...
Jeremy Allison: Microsoft document kerberos PAC format - with a catch...
May 1, 2000, 20 :18 UTC (34 Talkback[s]) (21889 reads)

(Other stories by Jeremy Allison)

[ Linux Today reader Jeremy Allison writes: ]

"Check out the URL :

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/en/xml/00/04/28/000428enkerpub.xml

Essentially, Microsoft have documented the proprietary changes they made to Kerberos 5, but made the changes available in a self extracting executable.

Running this .exe gives this click-through license which you must agree to before extracting (NB. I did not agree and the extract terminates).

"b. The Specification is confidential information and a trade secret of Microsoft. Therefore, you may not disclose the Specification to anyone else (except as specifically allowed below), and you must take reasonable security precautions, at least as great as the precautions you take to protect your own confidential information, to keep the Specification confidential. If you are an entity, you may disclose the Specification to your full-time employees on a need to know basis, provided that you have executed appropriate written agreements with your employees sufficient to enable you to comply with the terms of this Agreement. You are also permitted to discuss the Specification with anyone else who has downloaded the Specification and agreed to these terms and conditions."

This is course is a very clever way to pretend to distribute the spec, whilst making it completely impossible to implement in Open Source kerberos servers. If you did of course the full weight of US anti-reverse engineering laws would descend upon you.

Well done Microsoft, seems the DOJ hasn't blunted your competitive edge at all :-) :-).

Regards,

Jeremy Allison,
Samba Team."

Related Stories:
LinuxWorld: The Gates of Hades - Microsoft attempts to co-opt Kerberos (Apr 20, 2000)
The Economist: Microsoft: Deadly Embrace [& Extend of Kerberos] (Apr 04, 2000)
Slashdot: Jeremy Allison Answers Samba Questions (Mar 24, 2000)
Inter@ctive Week: Kerberos Made To Heel To Windows 2000 (Feb 28, 2000)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
It would be possible to patch this self- ...   Patched binary   
Bill Sidhipong
May 1, 2000, 20:38:43
 
They killed Kerberos!

I can't tel ...   Those Bastards   
David
May 1, 2000, 20:41:14
 
Okay, it's pretty shabby of MS, but  ...   Clean Room   
Anil Wang
May 1, 2000, 20:51:35
 
It gets better :-).

Looking at this c ...   It gets better :-).   
Jeremy Allison
May 1, 2000, 20:55:26
 
If it's a PKZIP self-extracting bina ...   Re: Patched binary   
Gabby Merik
May 1, 2000, 20:56:23
 
If this is any indication of the future, ...   Trade secrets and the DOJ remedies   
Anil Wang
May 1, 2000, 21:04:46
 
I went to Microsoft.com, performed a sea ...   Here's how to get the uncompressed document w/   
Brian Hall
May 1, 2000, 21:06:14
 
It would be possible to patch this self- ...   Re: Patched binary   
~
May 1, 2000, 21:23:24
 
OK, suppose somebody 'elsewhere' ...   Do it elsewhere   
Roger Irwin
May 1, 2000, 21:28:52
 
Does anyone know what the legal status o ...   What is the legal status of APIs?   
Anil Wang
May 1, 2000, 21:32:04
 
An on-line license agreement is not vali ...   License agreements not valid   
Lars Dybdahl
May 1, 2000, 22:07:10
 
Do you post "trade secrets" on the inter ...   TRADE SECRET???!!!   
Esko Woudenberg
May 1, 2000, 22:16:11
 

I wish I can get my hands on those rat ...   Killing open standards   
Prasanna
May 1, 2000, 22:24:40
 
I just used from Windows (I am at work)  ...   I did not agree to any licences and opened the fil   
Darrell Wright
May 1, 2000, 22:47:13
 
Yep, I tried that URL and the .exe downl ...   Re: Here's how to get the uncompressed documen   
AJWM
May 1, 2000, 22:53:43
 
I was reading through this article and t ...   This is not a trade Secret   
Steve Kirkup
May 1, 2000, 23:24:45
 
www.bigfoot.com/~brihall  ...   posted document on my website   
Brian Hall
May 1, 2000, 23:26:48
 
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying  ...   Breakup Microsoft OS into 2 pieces   
Howard B. Golden
May 2, 2000, 00:00:23
 
It's true that on Linux, you'd n ...   Unfortunately, it's not good enough   
Eric Yoden
May 2, 2000, 00:00:34
 
Perhaps they wanted to show-off whatever ...   showoffs. Well teeth anyway.   
Zeirem
May 2, 2000, 01:44:48
 
How about criminal charges for theft of  ...   A different track   
Dale Pontius
May 2, 2000, 01:51:46
 
A search on kerberos PAC leads to this t ...   Most of you are looking at the wrong doc   
Li\'l Tommy
May 2, 2000, 02:06:49
 
kark works also (kde-archiver). ...   wp9 can read it !!!   
yuri vil
May 2, 2000, 02:40:49
 
Thanks for the info.

It appears that al ...   Re: Most of you are looking at the wrong doc   
Anil Wang
May 2, 2000, 02:54:51
 
i was able to view the .pdf from the fil ...   Re: Most of you are looking at the wrong doc   
Anonymous Coward
May 2, 2000, 05:58:48
 
Ask anybody in the open source community ...   Easy   
Alessandro Coppo
May 2, 2000, 07:11:11
 
It's true that on Linux, you'd n ...   Re: Unfortunately, it's not good enough (2000-   
Richard Corfield
May 2, 2000, 12:51:46
 
I don't think your solutions of fond ...   Bypassing lic. won't do it   
James E. LaBarre
May 2, 2000, 14:59:45
 
One doesn't distribute a trade secre ...   weak protection   
Raphael Marmier
May 2, 2000, 16:37:30
 
Just to provide some other context for t ...   Smoking Gun Email on The Register   
Doug Bostrom
May 2, 2000, 18:08:55
 
http://darklands.cx/~nobody  ...   Posted   
Nobody
May 3, 2000, 03:19:23
 
There is absolutely no warning that you  ...   No warning of license agreement   
Frank Swasey
May 3, 2000, 12:48:50
 
...include a requirement that the Window ...   the DOJ terms   
trevor
May 7, 2000, 01:35:23
 
That's simply not true http://www.vi ...   Re: Re: Unfortunately, it's not good enough (2   
Victor
Jul 23, 2004, 22:34:24
 
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