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What went wrong with Mozilla?
Jul 24, 2000, 07 :07 UTC (38 Talkback[s]) (17051 reads)

(Other stories by Monty Manley)

[ Thanks to Kelly McNeill for this link. ]

"If at some point in the future a seminar is ever given on how *not* to conduct a large-scale Open Source software project, Mozilla would make a dandy example. A long series of lamentable mistakes, most of them avoidable, have caused the Mozilla project to languish unfinished for more than a year beyond its projected release date."

"What happened?"

"Everything But The Kitchen Sink"

"Had Mozilla simply tasked itself with writing the best, standards-compliant browser on the market, all would have been well. Gecko, the rendering engine used by Mozilla, has been in fine working shape for nearly a year. But at some point, the Mozilla team fell prey to the idea that it had to be a *platform*; it had to provide its own GUI, scripting language, mail/news client, Java support, on and on and on. Furthermore, it was to be pervasively multiplatform -- it should build on Macs, PCs, Linux boxes, Solaris, whatever. And it had to do this in the face of a huge corporate restructuring and the defections of several key developers."

Complete Story

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Mozilla.org: The Mozilla Project and mozilla.org(Jul 11, 2000)
LinuxPlanet: One Fat Gecko: Netscape 6(Jun 20, 2000)
BetaNews: New Plans [for Mozilla] at AOL(May 31, 2000)
NewZilla: The unofficial Netscape 6 and Mozilla FAQ for newbies.(May 15, 2000)
BetaNews: Mozilla Team Responds(Apr 16, 2000)
mozillaZine: "Reports of Mozilla's Failure Have Been Greatly Exaggerated"(Jan 30, 2000)
Linux.com: The Ailing Lizard?(Jan 19, 2000)
ZDNet.UK: Key developer leaves Mozilla(Jan 13, 2000)
Dave Whitinger -- The Battle That Could Lose Us The War(Nov 05, 1999)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
Mozilla _is_ bloated. People just need t ...   I agree with the bloat   
Jakob Frandsen
Jul 24, 2000, 07:34:29
 
Mozilla didn't compile from day-one. ...   Article Misses the Biggest Failing   
Nathan Hand
Jul 24, 2000, 08:06:45
 
Am I the only on sick of hearing this? I ...   Enough already   
Stephen Moore
Jul 24, 2000, 08:08:25
 
Instead of helping and supporting a majo ...   bitching, bitching, bitching   
danny
Jul 24, 2000, 08:38:11
 
I can agree with the author. Both Netsca ...   Management problems   
tftp
Jul 24, 2000, 09:13:15
 
The only real problem Mozilla has faced  ...   The only problem with Mozilla: Time   
Benjamin Scott
Jul 24, 2000, 12:31:17
 
Yes, if we pronounce dead anything that  ...   Its not ready yet, let it cook   
Frank V. Castellucci
Jul 24, 2000, 12:33:31
 
I have been using Mozilla since mileston ...   Mozilla works for me   
Greg Foster
Jul 24, 2000, 12:33:54
 
I agree with Jakob.

I had also posted ...   re: Features   
new_user
Jul 24, 2000, 13:16:03
 
Why doesn't the trade press, et al.  ...   Hey - 2.4 isn't out either?!?   
Steve Wilson
Jul 24, 2000, 13:18:58
 
While I can't endorse everything thi ...   Re: bitching, bitching, bitching   
dprovine
Jul 24, 2000, 13:19:20
 
>why can't they just sit down and wr ...   A Better Idea   
Wally Brock
Jul 24, 2000, 13:31:59
 
M19?? Good grief. At this rate it will b ...   Re: bitching, bitching, bitching   
Omar
Jul 24, 2000, 13:40:18
 
Perhaps it's time to throw a major e ...   Galeon?   
ac
Jul 24, 2000, 13:58:54
 
Is it possible to download the Gecko cod ...   Gecko code only?   
James E. LaBarre
Jul 24, 2000, 14:21:27
 
> >why can't they just sit down and  ...   Re: A Better Idea   
Len Wilson
Jul 24, 2000, 14:31:26
 
People really seem to be missing the poi ...   Re: I agree with the bloat   
Bob Roberts
Jul 24, 2000, 15:04:38
 
>> Forgive my ignorance, but why didn&#3 ...   About Galeon   
Nate Case
Jul 24, 2000, 15:21:30
 
The old netscape was pervasively multipl ...   Multiplatform   
David Acklam
Jul 24, 2000, 15:35:36
 
"Gee- as I recall, Linux 2.4 was suppose ...   Re: Hey - 2.4 isn't out either?!?   
SomeOtherGuy
Jul 24, 2000, 15:55:05
 
This article MAY be very shortsighted.   ...   Very shortsighted   
George Mitchell
Jul 24, 2000, 16:03:09
 
> Is it possible to download the Gecko c ...   Re: Gecko code only?   
Svartalf
Jul 24, 2000, 16:42:14
 
Microsoft's FUD campaign currently h ...   The Anti-Mozilla FUD Campaign Continues   
Mike Cornall
Jul 24, 2000, 16:54:06
 
Just to beat that horse a little deader, ...   The Sin of Pride: Mozilla gets Enlightenment   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 24, 2000, 17:00:35
 

What exactly is wrong with Mozilla bei ...   Desperation.   
Motor
Jul 24, 2000, 17:10:01
 
Groaning about Mozilla's lateness is ...   might as well just shut up and keep waiting   
Casey Perkins
Jul 24, 2000, 17:14:06
 
Mike, Mike, Mike.
I know we don't a ...   Re: The Anti-Mozilla FUD Campaign Continues: Mike   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 24, 2000, 17:15:13
 
Guess what! Mozilla is DEAD!  Well then  ...   Galeon TIME!   
Mal0wn
Jul 24, 2000, 17:23:32
 
The source download is old, being from n ...   Gecko source dl...   
Svartalf
Jul 24, 2000, 18:01:06
 
It's true: it's all a conspiracy ...   Well said, comrade!   
A. Nonius Mousus
Jul 24, 2000, 19:46:59
 
Think about emacs. It's one of the b ...   Mozilla is big, bloated and have too much features   
vitor
Jul 24, 2000, 21:43:08
 
The solution is NOT for the Mozilla team ...   Integrated Internet Application   
E. M. Collins
Jul 24, 2000, 21:52:52
 
> Because the developers didn't thin ...   Re: Gecko code only?   
Nate Case
Jul 24, 2000, 22:00:50
 
I don't disagree with their goal.  H ...   Re: Integrated Internet Application   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jul 24, 2000, 22:05:46
 
XUL sounds like it has great potential,  ...   custom cross-platform toolkit   
Rob
Jul 24, 2000, 22:53:32
 
I know we don't always agree, but yo ...   Re: Mike, is that really you?   
Mike Cornall
Jul 25, 2000, 05:54:42
 
   One of the things which made Linux wo ...   mozilla? "Show me the code"   
ioan gartner
Jul 25, 2000, 06:04:49
 
I down load j2re and load but can not op ...   how to open java applet on mozilla web browser on   
S.hassan
Apr 8, 2004, 05:34:41
 
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