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:LinuxPlanet: Editor's Note: Waiting for the Black Helicopters
LinuxPlanet: Editor's Note: Waiting for the Black Helicopters
Dec 14, 2000, 17 :21 UTC (26 Talkback[s]) (12582 reads)

(Other stories by Kevin Reichard)

"I'm speaking of Joe Barr's piece of tripe in LinuxWorld, where he takes Microsoft to task -- calling them the "piracy police" -- for asking Virginia Beach, Va., to verify that no unauthorized copies of Microsoft products were in use. (I'm not even going to dignify the article with pointing you toward a URL and a cheap page view.) Let's just say that Barr isn't a lawyer: he throws a lot of stuff against a wall to see what sticks. He throws out legal concepts like the presumption of innocence (which pertains only in criminal law, not in civil law) and the role that anti-trust plays in this case (Barr seems genuinely confused by the notion that anti-trust laws exist to protect the consumer, not competitors) -- neither of which have a thing to do with basic contract law."

"The story in Virginia Beach is simple. Microsoft had a contract that it wanted to enforce. It sent a letter to the municipality, asking for verification that the terms of the contract were being met -- a verification process that Virginia Beach agreed to when it purchased the software. Nothing evil in this -- it happens in the corporate world every day...."

"Bashing Microsoft does not elevate Linux. And bashing Microsoft for enforcing a legal contract -- the type of contract, by the way, that many other firms in the Linux community use -- doesn't even rise to the level of flamebait. We in the Linux community should be better than that."

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LinuxWorld: Microsoft unleashes piracy police: Are you safe?(Dec 14, 2000)
Virginian Pilot: Microsoft orders Va. Beach to prove software ownership(Nov 05, 2000)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
Exactly right, Kevin.

Joe's piece ...   Say it ain;t so, Joe.   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Dec 14, 2000, 17:34:51
 
Everyone at Slashdot...
 
 http://slash ...   Not just LinuxWorld   
hey
Dec 14, 2000, 17:38:03
 
It reminds us that MS is a hard-nosed co ...   Joe Barr's piece is extremely useful   
Alan W. Irwin
Dec 14, 2000, 17:41:42
 
I'm not saying this to defend the or ...   Re: Say it ain;t so, Joe.   
Michael Schwarz
Dec 14, 2000, 17:52:33
 
MS does depend heavily upon contract law ...   The problem with MS is   
James
Dec 14, 2000, 18:28:32
 
This is the "nice" MS.  A few months ago ...   The black helicopters are here!   
ClosedSourceGuy
Dec 14, 2000, 18:36:04
 
It may be inflammatory, but I consider i ...   Re: Joe Barr's piece is extremely useful   
PDL
Dec 14, 2000, 18:37:48
 
Every statement Joe Barr made was on tar ...   Joe Barr was right to criticize MS   
John Sowa
Dec 14, 2000, 19:15:55
 
Maybe Kevin wrote this because internet. ...   Another conspiracy theory   
David Walser
Dec 14, 2000, 19:31:43
 
Alright - who are you, and what did you  ...   Re: The black helicopters are here!   
Bjørn Steensrud
Dec 14, 2000, 19:47:29
 
If you sign a contract with the Devil, y ...   Faustian contract   
Gareth Barnard
Dec 14, 2000, 19:48:46
 
Legalities aside, the article has a seri ...   A serious point anyway   
David
Dec 14, 2000, 19:54:40
 
Microsoft - and others - write license t ...   Bash sick licenses!   
Ken Weeks
Dec 14, 2000, 20:48:56
 
> Maybe Kevin wrote this because interne ...   Re: Another conspiracy theory   
Kevin Reichard
Dec 14, 2000, 20:57:15
 
Until Congress and the President are wil ...   Re: Joe Barr was right to criticize MS   
David Johnson
Dec 14, 2000, 21:09:03
 
> It reminds us that MS is a hard-nosed  ...   Re: Joe Barr's piece is extremely useful   
George Tirebiter
Dec 14, 2000, 23:20:06
 
> I believe the golden "Shamon U" should ...   Re: Re: Say it ain;t so, Joe.   
George Tirebiter
Dec 14, 2000, 23:21:36
 
> This is much more than contract law -  ...   Re: The black helicopters are here!   
George Tirebiter
Dec 14, 2000, 23:23:38
 
> First, it informs the reader that Micr ...   Re: Re: Joe Barr's piece is extremely useful   
George Tirebiter
Dec 14, 2000, 23:24:40
 
> Until Congress and the President are w ...   Re: Joe Barr was right to criticize MS   
George Tirebiter
Dec 14, 2000, 23:26:26
 
Pettifogger, eh?
Well, I've been ca ...   Re: The black helicopters are here!   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Dec 14, 2000, 23:49:43
 
Hey, Dean.

Happy holidays.

I stand ...   Re: Say it ain;t so, Joe.   
Joe Barr
Dec 15, 2000, 01:02:36
 
I agree with your view entirely.  This i ...   Re: Re: Say it ain;t so, Joe.   
pac4854
Dec 15, 2000, 02:30:00
 
Well, I looked at this a couple of times ...   So, who _is_ a lawyer here?   
Timothy J. Bogart
Dec 15, 2000, 03:31:53
 
> I stand behind the story completely.   ...   Re: Re: Say it ain;t so, Joe.   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Dec 15, 2000, 06:43:48
 
It seems to me that Virginia Beach serio ...   Total Cost of Ownership   
Attila Mate
Dec 15, 2000, 22:43:45
 
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