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:Slackware Commercial Distribution Left in Doubt as Developers Are Laid Off
Slackware Commercial Distribution Left in Doubt as Developers Are Laid Off
Apr 17, 2001, 20 :05 UTC (81 Talkback[s]) (19387 reads)

(Other stories by Michael Hall)

By Michael Hall, LinuxToday

Commercial distribution for Slackware has been left in a precarious position by the recent acquisition of the software assets of its parent company BSDi (now part of Wind River).

UserLocal reported yesterday that several core Slackware developers had been laid off by the company left behind by the acquisition: server manufacturer iXsystems. Though the developers said they'll continue to work on Slackware, they won't be drawing a pay check to do so.

According to Slackware project head Patrick Volkerding, who'd earlier said he hoped the acquisition would leave the distribution untouched, the layoffs are the result of the terms of the acquisition and resulting spinoff of iXsystems:

"BSDi (formerly Walnut Creek CDROM, our long-time publisher) was bought by Wind River because they wanted the BSD assets for use in embedded devices. They do not like Linux or the GPL one iota, so we all essentially became "orphaned" when they showed no interest in bringing us over."

Volkerding's assessment of Wind River's attitude is borne out by statements made in the Wind River FAQ on the acquisition and a recent report in LinuxGram that quoted Wind River Vice President John Foeglin as saying companies "fear the GPL" because of its requirements to share modifications to GPL-licensed source code.

"The hardware side of the company (iXsystems) did have some interest in publishing Slackware," said Volkerding, " and for a week or so we thought the whole team would regroup under their umbrella, but it turned out that the deal prohibits them from selling software."

In the mean time, work continues on Slackware, which isn't tied to commercial distribution, and Volkerding said he hopes to start a new Slackware company, "but until [the project gets] this next release out, the money is going to be tight. Slackware has always been profitable though, and I sincerely hope we'll have the resources soon to help support the rest of the team."

Related Stories:
CNet.com: Microsoft lures big names for embedded OS(Apr 10, 2001)
DaemonNews.org: Why I Switched to FreeBSD (Apr 08, 2001)
LinuxGram: Wind River Buys BSD/OS(Apr 06, 2001)
UPDATED: AllLinuxDevices: BSDi Acquired by Embedded Computing Firm Wind River(Apr 05, 2001)
Upside: Wind River inside; competition for Linux in embedded devices(Feb 26, 2001)
Upside: The Great Open Source Debate wages on(Sep 29, 2000)
AllLinuxDevices: Embedded Software Experts Debate The Merits Of Open Source Code(Sep 06, 2000)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
all things come around.  
this time nex ...   FULL CIRCLE   
keith frost
Apr 17, 2001, 20:23:22
 
Slackware obviously needs a new home.

 ...   Hope it turns out well   
Pingo Penguin
Apr 17, 2001, 20:26:31
 
called  Orangatang.
I am serious . that ...   I think it is time for a Linux Distro   
Bsd grrrr.
Apr 17, 2001, 20:36:09
 
I've used Slack my whole Linux life  ...   So sad   
Alastor
Apr 17, 2001, 20:41:02
 

	As a long-time, die-hard, dyed-in-the ...   This sucks!   
JCA
Apr 17, 2001, 20:48:34
 
...was bought by Wind River because they ...   Wither BSD?   
Larry
Apr 17, 2001, 20:56:10
 
Note that even Sun chose the GPL for the ...   Re: Wither BSD?   
lag
Apr 17, 2001, 21:10:31
 
i just hope freebsd doesn't get all  ...   freebsd   
bg
Apr 17, 2001, 21:14:46
 
I think that about somes it up.
Any  on ...   BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
The GPL Forever.
Apr 17, 2001, 21:16:46
 
> More like saving our ass.

Well, it  ...   Re: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Apr 17, 2001, 21:36:44
 
I think that pretty much sums up the BSD ...   Steal this code.   
Bill Nuxli
Apr 17, 2001, 21:48:45
 
slackware is not a commercial distributi ...   commercial slackware   
ac
Apr 17, 2001, 21:55:27
 
Direct your anger at the appropriate peo ...   Re: I think it is time for a Linux Distro   
David Johnson
Apr 17, 2001, 21:59:31
 
it's ok, noone except for us hardcor ...   it's ok   
slu
Apr 17, 2001, 22:03:44
 
> I think that pretty much sums up the B ...   Re: Steal this code.   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Apr 17, 2001, 22:10:48
 
Wind River could have simply used *BSD w ...   Re: Wither BSD?   
Erat
Apr 17, 2001, 22:11:42
 
slackware is not a commercial distributi ...   Re: commercial slackware   
Michael Hall
Apr 17, 2001, 22:14:05
 
> > I think that pretty much sums up the ...   Re: Re: Steal this code.   
me
Apr 17, 2001, 22:29:43
 
> Direct your anger at the appropriate p ...   Re: Re: I think it is time for a Linux Distro   
Bah
Apr 17, 2001, 22:34:58
 
> > More like saving our ass.
> 
> Wel ...   Re: Re: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
Rufus Polson
Apr 17, 2001, 23:43:45
 
> Dean, I know you're just trying to ...   Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Apr 17, 2001, 23:50:12
 
Ooh! How clever of them! I would never h ...   Re: Re: Re: I think it is time for a Linux Distro   
David Johnson
Apr 17, 2001, 23:55:19
 
I warned you about Wind River ... FreeBS ...   Re: commercial slackware   
OMG
Apr 17, 2001, 23:57:41
 
ive tried a lot of linux distro's an ...   i will always use slackware   
sadsfae
Apr 17, 2001, 23:57:54
 
Wind River the M$ of embedded.  Please r ...   Wind River is the Microsoft of embedded!!!!   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 00:04:44
 
> ...was bought by Wind River because th ...   Re: Wither BSD?   
Andrew
Apr 18, 2001, 00:20:08
 
> 	As a long-time, die-hard, dyed-in-the ...   Re: This sucks!   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 00:29:20
 
Dean, I know you're just trying to b ...   Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Ted Clark
Apr 18, 2001, 00:45:42
 
I have faith in Volkerding and his peopl ...   Volkerding shall persevere!   
darkmo0d
Apr 18, 2001, 00:46:30
 
> it's ok, noone except for us hardc ...   Re: it's ok   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 00:59:12
 
> > I think that pretty much sums up the ...   Re: Re: Steal this code.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 01:16:05
 
> It's a fairly complex process, and ...   Re: Re: Re: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 02:14:30
 
> Doesn't do a thing to FreeBSD.  BS ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 03:12:21
 
I for one am glad Linux is GPL.
Anyone  ...   None the less.......   
God's Preferred License
Apr 18, 2001, 03:34:30
 
This isn't to say that the BSD licen ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
jim
Apr 18, 2001, 03:34:51
 
> the fact that we are under totalitaria ...   Re: Volkerding shall persevere!   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 03:41:40
 
Well said!!! Couldn't agree with you ...   Re: it's ok   
me
Apr 18, 2001, 04:25:06
 
Dean, I don't want to get into a pis ...   Re: Steal this code.   
me
Apr 18, 2001, 05:37:44
 
> and of course now i'm a bsd bigot  ...   Re: it's ok   
Rainer Weikusat
Apr 18, 2001, 07:23:39
 
> > the fact that we are under totalitar ...   Re: Re: Volkerding shall persevere!   
Ignasi Palou-Rivera
Apr 18, 2001, 07:42:25
 
Wind River made their millions by sellin ...   Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Wol
Apr 18, 2001, 08:23:44
 
GPL is saving your as ? How is the BSD l ...   Re: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
novation
Apr 18, 2001, 09:36:30
 

> Not that the Democrats haven't p ...   Re: Re: Re: Volkerding shall persevere!   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 13:26:02
 
 
> So I suspect the rumours are just t ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 13:43:20
 
Wind River might now own the trademarks  ...   FreeBSD and Slackware might go...   
Ed Craig
Apr 18, 2001, 13:58:49
 
> So I suspect the rumours are just that ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Wol
Apr 18, 2001, 14:41:50
 
You people sitting their paranoid about  ...   BSD License.   
Lloyd
Apr 18, 2001, 14:49:34
 
All it takes is for a couple of people t ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Ted Clark
Apr 18, 2001, 16:03:33
 
 Linux is not completely immune but do y ...   Re: Re: Re: Steal this code   
Eric Laffoon
Apr 18, 2001, 16:05:29
 
> They can be used as the bases for Debi ...   Re: FreeBSD and Slackware might go...   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 16:09:18
 
> Wind River could have simply used *BSD ...   Re: Wither BSD? NOT!   
Buck
Apr 18, 2001, 16:34:38
 
> i just hope freebsd doesn't get al ...   Re: freebsd   
Buck
Apr 18, 2001, 16:36:37
 
> > ...was bought by Wind River because  ...   Re: Re: Wither BSD?   
Buck
Apr 18, 2001, 16:40:07
 
> You people sitting their paranoid abou ...   Re: BSD License.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 16:45:03
 
> > You people sitting their paranoid ab ...   Re: Re: BSD License.   
lloyd
Apr 18, 2001, 17:00:24
 
 The only 'shortcomings' of the  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Rufus Polson
Apr 18, 2001, 17:36:32
 
>The
> fact is how are you going to fee ...   Re: Re: it's ok   
Rufus Polson
Apr 18, 2001, 17:43:59
 
> FreeBSD was never part of the deal; it ...   Re: Re: Wither BSD? NOT!   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 17:59:51
 
> > It's a fairly complex process, a ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
Rufus Polson
Apr 18, 2001, 18:06:06
 
 
> This has nothing to do with FreeBSD ...   Re: Re: freebsd   
omg
Apr 18, 2001, 18:07:17
 
> HELLO! They didn't get FreeBSD at  ...   Re: Re: Re: Wither BSD?   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 18:11:23
 
 HELLO! They didn't get FreeBSD at a ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Wither BSD?   
Myddrin
Apr 18, 2001, 18:53:20
 
> > > You people sitting their paranoid  ...   Re: Re: Re: BSD License.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 18:55:27
 
> No you don't have to buy it back,  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: BSD License.   
Rufus Polson
Apr 18, 2001, 19:20:09
 
> Wind River may be dangerous, but they  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
OMG
Apr 18, 2001, 19:21:26
 
> 
> What about
...
> 
> - no ipfilt ...   Re: Re: it's ok (say what!?)   
Anonymous
Apr 18, 2001, 19:21:54
 
I like the GPL much better than the BSD  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Ted Clark
Apr 18, 2001, 20:33:42
 
> I like the GPL much better than the BS ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Rufus Polson
Apr 18, 2001, 21:07:09
 
Certainly Wind River^H^H^H^H^H Bag has s ...   Slack won't die   
Slack User
Apr 18, 2001, 23:14:40
 
Ok, I more or less follow your argument  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Steal this code.   
Ted Clark
Apr 19, 2001, 08:11:46
 
> You aren't really an open source p ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BSD License.   
OMG
Apr 19, 2001, 15:25:02
 
OK, fair point.  They do sound like a na ...   Fair enough; was Re: BSD License.   
Rufus Polson
Apr 19, 2001, 16:46:36
 
Oh my God!
The possibility of my fav. d ...   Death of an old friend?   
Ian Linwood
Apr 21, 2001, 19:14:59
 
I write code because I enjoy writing cod ...   blind beliefs (was: BSD: Great code,lousy license.   
LEMC
Apr 22, 2001, 18:58:18
 
> Excuse me, but doesn't Wind River  ...   Re: Re: Re: Wither BSD? NOT!   
LEMC
Apr 22, 2001, 19:08:29
 
> Excuse me, but Wind River bought FreeB ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: BSD License.   
LEMC
Apr 22, 2001, 19:37:15
 
> I hope you are right ... but they did  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BSD: Great code,lousy lice   
LEMC
Apr 22, 2001, 19:59:11
 
> Certainly Wind River^H^H^H^H^H Bag has ...   Re: Slack won't die   
Xunil Ung
Apr 30, 2001, 00:54:46
 
I think Slack is going to be the Dragon  ...   slack won't go   
John P. Zakrzewski
May 2, 2001, 02:13:32
 
Just a dream:

Would be nice to ask Mi ...   Dreaming about Redmond...   
Andre
May 9, 2001, 13:34:33
 
Slackware remains the oldest surviving G ...   7 years later, Slackware STILL going strong!   
Sum Yung Gai
Jul 17, 2008, 03:00:34
 
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