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:Red Hat: ext3 information
Red Hat: ext3 information
Oct 11, 2001, 05 :41 UTC (173 Talkback[s]) (131408 reads)

(Other stories by Michael Johnson)

Subject: ext3 information
From: Michael K. Johnson 
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:53:08 -0400

I wrote up a short piece that I hope to flesh out a bit more later
on why Red Hat chose to include ext3 in this release, why you want
to use it, and what we did to make it robust.

It's not an anti-any-other-filesystem tirade at all.  Don't take
any part of it as meant to put down any other filesystem, even
ones we have not chosen to ship yet.  No hidden agenda involving
alien abductions...  :-)

Anyway, I hope it's useful.  Feedback to the list, please.

michaelkjohnson

 "He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book."
 Linux Application Development                     -- Ben Franklin
 http://people.redhat.com/johnsonm/lad/

Why do you want to migrate from ext2 to ext3? Four main reasons: availability, data integrity, speed, and easy transition.

Availability:
After an unclean system shutdown (unexpected power failure, system crash), each ext2 file system cannot be mounted until its consistency has been checked by the e2fsck program. The amount of time that the e2fsck program takes is determined primarily by the size of the file system, and for today's relatively large (many tens of gigabytes) file systems, this takes a long time. Also, the more files you have on the file system, the longer the consistency check takes. File systems several hundreds of gigabytes in size may take an hour or more to check. This severely limits availability.

By contrast, ext3 does not require a file system check even after an unclean system shutdown, except for certain rare hardware failure cases (e.g. hard drive failures), because the data is written to disk in such a way that the file system is always consistent. The time to recover an ext3 file system after an unclean system shutdown does not depend on the size of the file system or the number of files; rather, it depends on the size of the "journal" used to maintain consistency. The default journal size takes about a second to recover (depends on the speed of the hardware).

Data integrity:
Using the ext3 file system can provide stronger guarantees about data integrity in case of an unclean system shutdown. You have a choice of how carefully to protect your data. Essentially, you can choose either to keep the file system consistent but allow for damage to data on the file system in the case of unclean system shutdown (for a modest speed up under some but not all circumstances) or to ensure that the data is consistent with the state of the file system (which means that you will never see garbage data in recently-written files after a crash.) The more safe choice to keep the data consistent with the state of the file system is the default.

Speed:
Despite writing some data more than once, ext3 is often faster (higher throughput) than ext2 because ext3's journaling optimizes hard drive head motion. You can choose from three journaling modes to optimize speed, optionally choosing to trade off some data integrity. One mode, data=writeback, limits the data integrity guarantees, allowing old data to show up in files after a crash, for a potential increase in speed under some circumstances. This mode, which is the default journaling mode for most journaling file systems, essentially provides the more limited data integrity guarantees of the ext2 file system and merely avoids the long file system check at boot time. The second mode, data=ordered (the default mode), guarantees that the data is consistent with the file system: recently-written files will never show up with garbage contents after a crash. The last mode, data=journal, requires a larger journal for reasonable speed in most cases and therefore takes longer to recover in case of unclean shutdown, but is sometimes faster for certain database operations. The default mode is recommended for all general-purpose computing needs.

Easy transition:
It is easy to change from ext2 to ext3 and gain the benefits of a robust journaling file system, without reformatting. That's right, no need to do a long, tedious, and error-prone backup, reformat, restore operation in order to experience the advantages of ext3. There are two ways to do the transition:

  • The Red Hat Linux installer program will offer to transition your file systems when you upgrade your system. All you have to do is check one checkbox per file system.
  • The tune2fs program can add a journal to an existing ext2 file system. If the file system is already mounted when it is being transitioned, the journal will be visible as the file ".journal" in the root directory of the file system. If the file system is not mounted, the journal will be hidden and will not appear in the file system. Just run tune2fs -j /dev/hda1 (or whatever device holds the file system you are transitioning) and change "ext2" to "ext3" on the matching lines in /etc/fstab. If you are transitioning your root file system, you will have to use an initrd to boot; run the "mkinitrd" program as described in the manual and make sure that your lilo or grub configuration loads the initrd. (If you fail to make that change, the system will still boot, but the root file system will be mounted as ext2 instead of ext3 -- you can tell this by looking at the output of the command "cat /proc/mounts") More information on tune2fs can be found in the tune2fs man page.

A list of reasons Red Hat chose ext3 for our first supported journaling file system follows. Note that these reasons are not necessarily each unique to ext3 (some other journaling file systems share several of the points here) but the whole set of reasons taken together is unique to ext3.

  • ext3 is forwards and backwards compatible with ext2, allowing users to keep existing file systems while very simply adding journaling capability. Any user who wishes to un-journal a file system can do so easily. (Not that we expect many to do so...) Furthermore, an ext3 file system can be mounted as ext2 without even removing the journal, as long as a recent version of e2fsprogs (such as the one shipped in this release) is installed.
  • ext3 benefits from the long history of fixes and enhancements to the ext2 file system, and will continue to do so. This means that ext3 shares ext2's well-known robustness, but also that new features are added to ext2, they can be carried over to ext3 with little difficulty. When, for example, extended attributes or HTrees are added to ext2, it will be relatively easy to add them to ext3. (The extended attributes feature will enable things like access control lists; HTrees make directory operations extremely fast and highly scalable to very large directories.)
  • ext3, like ext2, has a multi-vendor team of developers who develop it and understand it well; its development does not depend on any one person or organisation.
  • ext3 provides and makes use of a generic journaling layer (jbd) which can be used in other contexts, and can journal not only within the file system, but also to other devices, so as NVRAM devices become available and supported under Linux, ext3 will be able to support them.
  • ext3 has multiple journaling modes. It can journal all file data and metadata (data=journal), or it can journal metadata but not data (data=ordered or data=writeback). When not journaling file data, you can choose whether to write file system data before metadata (data=ordered; causes all metadata to point to valid data) or not handle file data specially at all (data=writeback; file system will be consistent, but old data may appear in files after an unclean system shutdown). This gives the administrator the power to make the trade off between speed and file data consistency, and to tune speed for specialized usage patterns.
  • ext3 has broad cross-platform compatibility, working on 32 and 64 bit architectures, and on both little-endian and big-endian systems. Any system (currently including many Unix clones and variants, BeOS, and Windows) capable of accessing files on an ext2 file system will also be able to access files on an ext3 file system.
  • ext3 does not require extensive core kernel changes and requires no new system calls, thus presenting Linus no challenges to integrating ext3 into his official Linux kernel releases; ext3 is already integrated into Alan Cox's -ac kernels, slated for migration to Linus's official kernel soon.
  • The e2fsck file system recovery program has a long and proven track record of successful data recovery when software or hardware faults corrupt a file system. ext3 uses this same e2fsck code for salvaging the file system after such corruption so it has the same robustness against catastrophic data loss as ext2 in the presence of data-corruption faults.

Again, we don't claim that every one of these points are unique to ext3. Most of them are shared by at least one other filesystem. We merely claim that the set of all of them together is true only for ext3.

Here are some of the things Red Hat has done to ensure that ext3 is safe for users to use for their data:

  • We have done extensive stress testing under a large set of configurations. This has involved many thousands of hours of "contrived" load testing on a wide variety of hardware and file system configurations, as well as many use case tests.
  • We have audited ext3 for multiple conditions, including memory allocation errors happening at any point. We have tested that by forcing false errors and testing file system consistency.
  • We audited and tested ext3 for poor interactions with the VM subsystem, finding and fixing several interactions. A journaling file system puts more stress on the VM subsystem, and we found and fixed bugs both in ext3 and in the VM subsystem in the process of this audit and these tests. After thousands of hours of this testing, we are extremely confident in the robustness of the ext3 file system.
  • We have done an extensive year-long-plus beta program, starting with ext3 on the 2.2 kernel series, and then moving forwards to the 2.4 kernel series. Even before the official beta program, ext3 was put into production use in some circumstances; ext3 has been in production use on some widely-accessed servers, including the rpmfind.net servers, for over two years.

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I think I will not be afraid to use it. ...   Sounds very reasonable.   
Me, Myself & I
Aug 22, 2001, 04:26:30
 
if there is going to be somebody that sa ...   I wonder...   
Alastor
Aug 22, 2001, 05:13:39
 
This sounds like just the thing to tide  ...   I like it   
He, Himself & Him
Aug 22, 2001, 05:26:22
 
I've been happily using reiserfs for ...   sounds good   
Joe Black
Aug 22, 2001, 05:54:57
 
This was generally a balanced article. H ...   Good Article, one problem   
Redhat User
Aug 22, 2001, 06:05:53
 
This sounds all nice and fine.. But what ...   What about reiserfs?   
tripz
Aug 22, 2001, 06:30:17
 
A list of reasons Red Hat chose ext3 for ...   Read again...   
blah!
Aug 22, 2001, 06:37:59
 
It IS more mature. Read the article. Ext ...   Re: I wonder...   
blah
Aug 22, 2001, 06:40:16
 
I complained that RH did not include Rei ...   I complained...now I am shutting up...   
Bill Vinson
Aug 22, 2001, 06:50:06
 
I think the reason that RH stands behing ...   Smooth Transition   
Ryan Mack
Aug 22, 2001, 06:57:35
 
I guess it works like this. They have so ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Frankie Tay
Aug 22, 2001, 06:57:46
 
> But what about reiserfs? Why is ext3
 ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Cyd
Aug 22, 2001, 07:04:21
 
I have been using ReiserFS for as long a ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
CLU
Aug 22, 2001, 07:18:06
 
I'm using it since 0.1.0 for 2.4.5 a ...   ext3 is very stable   
Frédéric L. W. Meunier
Aug 22, 2001, 07:34:25
 
> This sounds all nice and fine.. But wh ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Robert
Aug 22, 2001, 07:35:53
 
read it guys .. It upgrades existing ext ...   For upgrades   
Guzzi
Aug 22, 2001, 07:40:52
 
Big thing really is NFS. RH has a server ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
spek
Aug 22, 2001, 07:47:45
 
I wonder if ext3 works together with NFS ...   ext3 + NFS ?   
Mike
Aug 22, 2001, 07:51:46
 
As my 2.2.19 kernel with ext3 patches wa ...   Synchronicity   
Jim Hill
Aug 22, 2001, 08:01:06
 

Thank you for this magnificent article ...   Thank you Michael Johnson   
Connel
Aug 22, 2001, 08:44:39
 
With gcc 2.96 you can't compile reli ...   gcc 2.96   
Ted appleby
Aug 22, 2001, 08:55:35
 
It works nicely for me.
san ...   Re: ext3 + NFS ?   
san
Aug 22, 2001, 09:01:38
 
I have heard that ReiserFS has no (or li ...   The problem with ReiserFS   
ac
Aug 22, 2001, 09:10:23
 
> read it guys .. It upgrades existing e ...   Re: For upgrades   
larry
Aug 22, 2001, 09:41:47
 
I will not discuss about which is best ( ...   No reason for whinning about Reiser   
JFM
Aug 22, 2001, 10:44:14
 

The thing that has always scared me aw ...   RAID, NFS, quota, etc.   
Anon
Aug 22, 2001, 11:06:23
 
I understand that Redhat chose ext3 over ...   Why ext3?   
Tom
Aug 22, 2001, 11:12:19
 
> The fact is I can make a list for any  ...   Re: Good Article, one problem   
Michael K. Johnson
Aug 22, 2001, 11:47:06
 
"no need to do a long, tedious, and erro ...   Cool, but one nitpick   
Alex
Aug 22, 2001, 11:48:45
 
> I wonder if ext3 works together with N ...   Re: ext3 + NFS ? Yes!   
Michael K. Johnson
Aug 22, 2001, 11:51:09
 
> if there is going to be somebody that  ...   Re: I wonder...   
Rick James
Aug 22, 2001, 11:52:37
 
As much as I like reiserfs (the primary  ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Remco de Jong
Aug 22, 2001, 12:06:56
 
> This was generally a balanced article. ...   Re: Good Article, one problem   
Kit Cosper
Aug 22, 2001, 12:12:27
 
> > But what about reiserfs? Why is ext3 ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Rick James
Aug 22, 2001, 12:13:26
 
The compatibility features of ext3 are a ...   Compatability is appealing   
Benjamin Scott
Aug 22, 2001, 12:50:49
 
 Big thing really is NFS. RH has a serve ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
loonix_gangsta
Aug 22, 2001, 12:57:21
 
> This sounds all nice and fine.. But wh ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Jamin Philip Gray
Aug 22, 2001, 13:21:46
 
So, ext3 is ok, it has one great advanta ...   More on journaling FS   
Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
Aug 22, 2001, 13:27:43
 
This isn't just a "business decision ...   Re: I complained...now I am shutting up...   
Paul Taylor
Aug 22, 2001, 13:36:17
 
I've worked with ext2, ext3, and Rei ...   How much research have you guys actually done on t   
Keith
Aug 22, 2001, 13:40:52
 
How hard will this make kernel upgrades? ...   Kernel   
nobody
Aug 22, 2001, 14:09:30
 
For the people who are wondering why Red ...   Redhat 7.1 vs. ReiserFS   
Another RedHat User
Aug 22, 2001, 14:15:20
 
> > This sounds all nice and fine.. But  ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Eric
Aug 22, 2001, 14:29:05
 
I'd say that converting-in-place fro ...   Easy transition is key   
Art Cancro
Aug 22, 2001, 14:32:24
 
> Also, w/ gcc 2.96, you can't compi ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Pete
Aug 22, 2001, 14:32:33
 
> Frankly, I don't trust my data to  ...   Re: Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Cabal
Aug 22, 2001, 14:44:02
 
>Ext3 was nice when I used it once or tw ...   Re: How much research have you guys actually done   
Kenneth Scharf
Aug 22, 2001, 14:47:16
 
> The thing that has always scared me aw ...   Re: RAID, NFS, quota, etc. (yes!)   
Michael K. Johnson
Aug 22, 2001, 15:18:05
 
> "no need to do a long, tedious, and er ...   Re: Cool, but one nitpick   
Michael K. Johnson
Aug 22, 2001, 15:24:22
 
> but also they provide a stock kernel w ...   Re: More on journaling FS   
Arjan van de Ven
Aug 22, 2001, 15:32:15
 
> I understand that Redhat chose ext3 ov ...   Re: Why ext3?   
Ian Wehrman
Aug 22, 2001, 15:32:29
 
ReiserFS has had a good PR campaign. The ...   Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
ac
Aug 22, 2001, 15:39:18
 
> With gcc 2.96 you can't compile re ...   Re: gcc 2.96   
JFM
Aug 22, 2001, 15:39:31
 
> I understand that Redhat chose ext3 ov ...   Re: Why ext3?   
Andres Salomon
Aug 22, 2001, 15:46:33
 
The only problem is those people who hav ...   Roswell handles existing ReiserFS partitions   
Trond Eivind Glomsrød
Aug 22, 2001, 15:51:03
 
I'm quite amazed that people neglect ...   XFS anyone?   
ctrl
Aug 22, 2001, 15:55:39
 
I'm using reiser right now and I lik ...   ReiserFS Compatibility   
Marc Perkel
Aug 22, 2001, 16:02:47
 
> > Frankly, I don't trust my data t ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Eric
Aug 22, 2001, 17:05:47
 
Arjan,

> Oh please. In the 7.1 timefr ...   Re: Re: More on journaling FS (Arjan)   
Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
Aug 22, 2001, 17:22:07
 
> ReiserFS is like a new car that seems  ...   Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
Richard Jones
Aug 22, 2001, 17:40:31
 
> This sounds all nice and fine.. But wh ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Alan Cox
Aug 22, 2001, 18:05:03
 
XFS does indeed rock. Plus you can downl ...   Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
Filter
Aug 22, 2001, 18:05:32
 
Well, what you should do is integrate al ...   RE: XFS Anyone?   
ne...
Aug 22, 2001, 18:40:50
 
i wonder if running ext3 over LVM is als ...   Re: Re: RAID, NFS, quota, etc. (yes!)   
Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
Aug 22, 2001, 18:51:52
 
I don't care what file system I use  ...   Smart Backup   
Todd
Aug 22, 2001, 19:18:35
 
Ext3 is perfect for upgrades!
But if I  ...   ReiserFS/ext3   
Norbert Sendetzky
Aug 22, 2001, 19:21:09
 
It may be just you. I have been using Re ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Damion K. Wilson
Aug 22, 2001, 19:32:35
 
Does ext3 support large files (>2 GB)?
 ...   LARGE Files   
just another RedHat user
Aug 22, 2001, 19:33:30
 
AFAIK, ReiserFS is primarily not a journ ...   ReiserFS copes with million tiny files   
Marko Rauhamaa
Aug 22, 2001, 19:51:57
 
XFS is a big bloated nasty (code-wise) t ...   Re: RE: XFS Anyone?   
Me
Aug 22, 2001, 21:02:52
 
> I have been using ReiserFS for as long ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   

Aug 22, 2001, 21:10:21
 
> I've worked with ext2, ext3, and R ...   Re: How much research have you guys actually done   

Aug 22, 2001, 21:15:56
 
Enable ReiserFS in the Kernel so that th ...   Can they at least...   
Mofrak
Aug 22, 2001, 21:28:20
 
Yes, ext3 inherits this feature from ext ...   Re: LARGE Files   
Nick Lamb
Aug 22, 2001, 21:43:10
 
> This sounds all nice and fine.. But wh ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Mike Markley
Aug 22, 2001, 22:04:12
 
Dump is tied into ext2 at a low level.   ...   Does dump still work?   
Dan Christian
Aug 22, 2001, 22:10:20
 
Easy transition is fine, but actually mo ...   Easy Transition   
Austin Gonyou
Aug 22, 2001, 22:11:14
 
> So, ext3 is ok, it has one great advan ...   Re: More on journaling FS   
Rick James
Aug 22, 2001, 22:41:16
 
http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks/mongo/ ...   XFS,ext3, ReiserFS benchmarks   
Victor Tramp
Aug 22, 2001, 22:43:19
 
i haven't seen this ? directly asked ...   ext3 + LVM?   
Victor Tramp
Aug 22, 2001, 22:44:57
 
Among other things, I have heard that Re ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
sibn
Aug 22, 2001, 22:59:08
 
> On my Solaris boxes, all I have to do  ...   Re: Easy transition is key   
astfgl
Aug 22, 2001, 23:17:10
 
> > But what about reiserfs? Why is ext3 ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Bill
Aug 22, 2001, 23:29:18
 

> You can use reiserfs with roswell2,  ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Bill
Aug 22, 2001, 23:37:44
 
> Does ext3 support large files (>2 GB)? ...   Re: LARGE Files   
Bill
Aug 22, 2001, 23:38:53
 
> So ReiserFS is not a competitor to ext ...   Re: ReiserFS copes with million tiny files   
BIll
Aug 22, 2001, 23:41:45
 
I agree. SGI has taken far more initiati ...   Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
John Haverty
Aug 23, 2001, 02:03:43
 
Stephen Tweedie, author of ext3, is an e ...   Run by shareholders   
Matthew Hawkins
Aug 23, 2001, 02:13:45
 
The right to fork is always there... but ...   Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
John Haverty
Aug 23, 2001, 02:14:52
 
I've used ReiserFS for almost two ye ...   Re: Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
ac
Aug 23, 2001, 02:21:01
 
whre do i found the ext3 source to insta ...   how-to install ext3 in 2.4.5 ?   
dedows
Aug 23, 2001, 03:18:56
 
> You want any *CHEESE* with your *WHINE ...   Re: Re: More on journaling FS   
Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
Aug 23, 2001, 03:25:33
 
> 
> > You can use reiserfs with roswel ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
Aug 23, 2001, 03:33:43
 
> http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks/mong ...   Re: XFS,ext3, ReiserFS benchmarks   
Christopher Hallaxs
Aug 23, 2001, 04:54:33
 
http://www.uow.edu.au/~andrewm/linux/ext ...   Re: how-to install ext3 in 2.4.5 ?   
Frédéric L. W. Meunier
Aug 23, 2001, 05:28:05
 
You're wrong kid. Stephen developed  ...   Re: Run by shareholders   
Frédéric L. W. Meunier
Aug 23, 2001, 05:34:00
 
> I've used ReiserFS for almost two  ...   Re: Re: Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
John Haverty
Aug 23, 2001, 06:54:14
 
> > > But what about reiserfs? Why is ex ...   Re: Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Rick James
Aug 23, 2001, 07:05:53
 

There was an utility to access the ext ...   What about windows?   
Paai
Aug 23, 2001, 08:09:31
 
> 
> > You can use reiserfs with roswel ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Arjan van de Ven
Aug 23, 2001, 08:18:33
 
> The right to fork is always there... b ...   Re: Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
JFM
Aug 23, 2001, 09:19:39
 
Ok, here is what I got from the last Ros ...   News from the last Roswell   
Marcelo Roberto Jimenez
Aug 23, 2001, 10:49:42
 
> I hear about all these people who get  ...   Re: Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Arjan van de Ven
Aug 23, 2001, 13:24:20
 
> I understand that Redhat chose ext3 ov ...   Re: Why ext3?   
huaz
Aug 23, 2001, 14:35:38
 
This is stupid.  Mandrake allows you to  ...   What about choice?   
Arthur H. Johnson II
Aug 23, 2001, 15:40:18
 
 Why _wouldn't_ redhat choose ext3?  ...   Re: Re: Why ext3?   
Jerry Kreps
Aug 23, 2001, 15:42:33
 
 The problem is that the vast majority o ...   Re: Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Jerry Kreps
Aug 23, 2001, 15:57:02
 
>Just read the listed benefits of ext3.. ...   Re: Mike Markley   
Alastor
Aug 23, 2001, 17:34:31
 
> This is stupid.  Mandrake allows you t ...   Re: What about choice?   
Mike Chambers
Aug 23, 2001, 17:43:00
 
> > But what about reiserfs? Why is ext3 ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
wb
Aug 23, 2001, 17:56:56
 

> -The only problem is those people wh ...   Re: No reason for whinning about Reiser   
wb
Aug 23, 2001, 18:02:05
 
> Ok, here is what I got from the last R ...   Re: News from the last Roswell   
Lamar Owen
Aug 23, 2001, 18:51:18
 
> Who cares? You'll find that there  ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Bill
Aug 23, 2001, 20:03:05
 
> > 
> > > You can use reiserfs with ro ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Bill
Aug 23, 2001, 20:05:16
 
> 
> > -The only problem is those peopl ...   Re: Re: No reason for whinning about Reiser   
JFM
Aug 23, 2001, 20:07:44
 
> Yes, ext3 inherits this feature from e ...   Re: Re: LARGE Files   
Cesar Romero
Aug 24, 2001, 03:30:20
 
Appologies I didn't mean to mis-repr ...   Re: Re: Cool, but one nitpick   
Alex
Aug 24, 2001, 08:26:58
 
I don't personally know any idiots w ...   But, RedHat sux goat nads!   
me
Aug 24, 2001, 10:08:41
 
Como ya se habran enterado la version de ...   YA SALIO - por siaca no se enteraron   
Ernesto Ruiz
Aug 24, 2001, 15:26:39
 
Hi Guys,

What ist he best fs for a ch ...   BUT: What is the best fs for a cheap softwareraid   
Thonix
Aug 24, 2001, 17:05:48
 
FYI I have been running XFS for a couple ...   Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
dhfoo
Aug 25, 2001, 09:20:26
 
> http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks/mong ...   Re: XFS,ext3, ReiserFS benchmarks   
Tom
Aug 25, 2001, 13:45:47
 
Hi, 
I had the same problem with the "u ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Oscar
Sep 5, 2001, 17:15:20
 
http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php ...   benchmarks on mandrakeforum   
danny
Oct 11, 2001, 08:06:23
 
I'm very happy with Reiser and will  ...   Re: No reason for whinning about Reiser   
MikeFM
Oct 11, 2001, 09:20:31
 
> On a side note, as a user of reiserfs, ...   Re: Good Article, one problem   
T. Adams
Oct 11, 2001, 09:36:08
 
> I've never used it, but I believe  ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
T. Adams
Oct 11, 2001, 10:03:21
 
The problem is that benchmarks like dben ...   Re: benchmarks on mandrakeforum   
Arjan van de Ven
Oct 11, 2001, 10:03:34
 
I've been using the ReiserFS since S ...   ReiserFS   
T. Parker
Oct 11, 2001, 12:08:07
 
Why should we bother with which filesyst ...   Filesystems/VM   
Alessandro Oliveira
Oct 11, 2001, 12:26:07
 
Also due to VM being rewritten in the la ...   Re: Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
Brett Simpson
Oct 11, 2001, 14:46:55
 
troll!  (And... oh. yeah?  Well you smel ...   Re: But, RedHat sux goat nads!   
me2
Oct 11, 2001, 14:55:29
 
>me2 - Subject: Re: But, RedHat sux goat ...   Re: Re: But, RedHat sux goat nads!   
me3
Oct 11, 2001, 16:18:43
 
> > On a side note, as a user of reiserf ...   Re: Re: Good Article, one problem   
Don
Oct 11, 2001, 16:37:12
 
Why has this story provoked such a flame ...   Flame war   
Alan Johnson
Oct 11, 2001, 16:38:28
 
> 
> So EXT3 may be able to provide an  ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Uno Entborg
Oct 11, 2001, 17:16:28
 
(about reiserFS not being an install tim ...   Re: Re: Re: Good Article, one problem   
Peter H.S.
Oct 11, 2001, 17:33:30
 
For those who are interested: The newest ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Good Article, one problem   
Someone
Oct 11, 2001, 18:09:52
 
with e2fs, there were a slew of tools.   ...   are new tools available?   
greg nate
Oct 11, 2001, 18:24:56
 
Hi,

Since the 2.4 kernels, I have ins ...   Reiserfs & old hardware - anyone else seeing this   
FS
Oct 11, 2001, 19:15:47
 
[snip]
> RedHat, your customers don&#39 ...   Re: Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
David
Oct 11, 2001, 19:33:54
 

> ReiserFS is like a new car that seem ...   Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
Rob
Oct 11, 2001, 20:26:54
 
> For those who are interested: The newe ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good Article, one problem   
JFM
Oct 11, 2001, 20:42:35
 

> Those were three very good reasons f ...   Re: gcc 2.96   
Rob
Oct 11, 2001, 21:26:19
 
Based on my own experience, ext3 appears ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
George P, Nelson
Oct 11, 2001, 22:14:30
 

> The base reiserfs works very well on ...   Re: Re: What about reiserfs?   
Hans Reiser
Oct 11, 2001, 22:56:48
 
> This sounds all nice and fine.. But wh ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Shane Simmons
Oct 12, 2001, 01:51:52
 
well, i'm quite happy that so many p ...   Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
gf
Oct 12, 2001, 06:24:48
 
> 
> > Those were three very good reaso ...   Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
JFM
Oct 12, 2001, 07:58:06
 
> Why should we bother with which filesy ...   Re: Filesystems/VM   
Rodney Quaye
Oct 12, 2001, 12:04:07
 
ext2 has a problem with quota in 2.4 ker ...   Quota in ext3   
Slavik
Oct 12, 2001, 17:41:33
 

> Also don't forget RH went from e ...   Re: Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
Rob
Oct 12, 2001, 21:11:21
 

> The fork took place six months befor ...   Re: Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
Rob
Oct 12, 2001, 21:54:05
 
> > Why should we bother with which file ...   Re: Re: Filesystems/VM   
Rob
Oct 12, 2001, 21:56:39
 
> 
> > Also don't forget RH went fr ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
JFM
Oct 13, 2001, 09:51:49
 
> You example was silly to begin with si ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gcc 2.96   
Rob
Oct 13, 2001, 11:35:57
 
> Does ext3 support large files (>2 GB)? ...   Re: LARGE Files   
Ondrej Sury
Oct 14, 2001, 08:58:03
 
 There's alot of ppl out there multi ...   OS support and various filesystems   
jago25_98
Oct 21, 2001, 04:32:07
 
Supposedly several JFSes will be include ...   Re: Re: Guys, FORGET ReiserFS ;-) use XFS   
Steve Pardee
Oct 25, 2001, 07:24:07
 
> > For those who are interested: The ne ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good Article, one problem   
Matthew Kurowski
Oct 26, 2001, 16:05:41
 
While reiserfs is a fine file system (I  ...   Re: What about reiserfs?   
Jonathan S. Shapiro
Oct 28, 2001, 21:44:20
 
Hi,

Great article. Thanks.

I'd ...   Distributed/Clustered file systems: ext3+NFS, Coda   
Sven Delmeiren
Nov 14, 2001, 16:42:42
 
when I mounted vfat on ext3 using fsconf ...   mounting problem with ext3   
somu
Dec 28, 2001, 14:39:21
 
Hi gurus,My RH 6.2 system was compromise ...   cannot modify rc.sysinit ! Help!!   
Atif
Jan 28, 2002, 12:31:28
 
Hello aT,They have run a command called  ...   Re: cannot modify rc.sysinit ! Help!!   
Robert Baynton
Feb 13, 2002, 10:57:07
 
Can you possibly tell me if partition ma ...   partion magic   
Robbie
Feb 22, 2002, 12:46:27
 
Hi,Can you please let me know the minimu ...   Kernel version : ext3 FS   
Saravanan Rajamanickam
Feb 26, 2002, 23:48:25
 
I see many advantages claimed over ext3  ...   What Limitations of ext3?   
Old Redhat user
Mar 14, 2002, 08:08:25
 
I want to know structure  of file EXT3   ...   structure file EXT3   
kue
Aug 30, 2002, 05:56:40
 
i have redhat 9 and ext3, but after and  ...   ext3 used, but still cannot recover   
jack
Jul 27, 2003, 01:15:27
 
please explane about ext2 and ext3 for m ...   file strucrure   
zahra
Jun 3, 2004, 02:07:36
 
please explane about ext2 and ext3 for m ...   file strucrure   
alex
Jun 3, 2004, 02:08:51
 
make a linux cd thrugh that cd we instal ...   RE:linux help   
akheel
Aug 28, 2005, 08:55:58
 
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