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:The Register: GNOME version 2.0 officially 'not of use to anyone'
The Register: GNOME version 2.0 officially 'not of use to anyone'
Oct 4, 2001, 21 :10 UTC (102 Talkback[s]) (18180 reads)

(Other stories by Andrew Orlowski)

"If we paint a cynical picture of the Linux desktop, it's because we've reluctantly concluded that the disadvantages of splitting brainpower and resources between two incompatible projects now outweigh the benefits of innovation, and losing the all-important network effect.

We use, and very much like GNOME/Gtk apps including Galeon and Evolution. But it drives us nuts that the best KDE and GNOME apps don't share a clipboard (you need to use the default X clipboard), and that neither KDE nor GNOME can use the soundcard at once.

A visiting Martian would surely conclude that the GNOME Project has served its purpose, and that for the community to continue bifurcated development is simply handing victory to The Beast. Enough, already."

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
One of the usual "register" flamebaits. ...   register flamebait   
jj
Oct 4, 2001, 21:16:39
 
We need GNome because a single check wri ...   one more @#@$%*& time...   
d@
Oct 4, 2001, 21:28:41
 
Yet Another Gnome Trolling Article.
We  ...   YAGTA   
Gaute Lindkvist
Oct 4, 2001, 21:29:23
 
Clap. Clap. Clap.
A shining example of  ...   Whatever   
Rufus Polson
Oct 4, 2001, 21:30:00
 
The Register has a very robust way of ex ...   Don't take it seriously   
Janne
Oct 4, 2001, 21:31:16
 
...
"The GNOME team has finally release ...   the author is clueless   
Jamin Philip Gray
Oct 4, 2001, 21:34:21
 
You guys preach it like it is.

Amen
 ...   Amen   
omar
Oct 4, 2001, 21:44:32
 
Ouch! Is gnome two years behind KDE ? I  ...   2 years behind?   
E
Oct 4, 2001, 21:45:51
 
Mozilla and Galeon are better with page  ...   Gnome ahead in browsers only   
blah
Oct 4, 2001, 21:48:03
 
Perfect.  This article is dead on.  It m ...   This article is dead on.   
Art Cancro
Oct 4, 2001, 21:48:04
 
What I have found is while KDE is improv ...   Can't we all just get along?   
Lazerdye
Oct 4, 2001, 21:49:41
 
Oh great.  Looks like the article was wr ...   Oh great, Slashdot trolls invade The Register ...   
CETIV
Oct 4, 2001, 21:54:34
 
I don't understand why they're s ...   Gnome isn't that bad   
Nick
Oct 4, 2001, 21:55:29
 
The short version:  "I like KDE better t ...   Translation   
flacco
Oct 4, 2001, 22:03:06
 
Please be decent about this article from ...   Gentlemen, start your flamethrowers...   
What's his name
Oct 4, 2001, 22:05:06
 
Quite a bold statement, coming from an o ...   The Register: Biting the hand that feeds FREEDOM   
Jon
Oct 4, 2001, 22:08:04
 
> We need GNome because a single check w ...   Re: one more @#@$%*& time...   
Richard Moore
Oct 4, 2001, 22:10:05
 
Ok.  To think either gnome or kde is jus ...   theme engine...   
error27
Oct 4, 2001, 22:17:51
 
> But the KDE camp, which seems to exten ...   KDE PR machine in full force   
Albert
Oct 4, 2001, 22:21:43
 
> Mozilla and Galeon are better with pag ...   Re: Gnome ahead in browsers only   
Janne
Oct 4, 2001, 22:29:32
 

> And that'll happen when one desk ...   Re: This article is dead on.   
JCA
Oct 4, 2001, 22:39:39
 
> but to publicly state that you wish on ...   Re: The Register: Biting the hand that feeds FREED   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Oct 4, 2001, 22:46:14
 
They got it right.  If this was an artic ...   Bingo   
RightOn
Oct 4, 2001, 22:55:29
 
ONLY THAT
TRASH, TRASH.	 ...   TRASH : THIS ARTICLE IS TRASH   
FP
Oct 4, 2001, 22:59:29
 
"I've yet to see a single GNOME PR c ...   Re: KDE PR machine in full force   
David Johnson
Oct 4, 2001, 23:02:09
 
"But what gnome and kde should do is wri ...   Re: theme engine...   
David Johnson
Oct 4, 2001, 23:14:02
 
> Please be decent about this article fr ...   Re: Gentlemen, start your flamethrowers...   
ToeKnee
Oct 4, 2001, 23:14:52
 
Since when is not reinventing the wheel  ...   Re: Re: Gnome ahead in browsers only   
Smiley Ben
Oct 4, 2001, 23:19:07
 
Have I missed the Register signing on as ...   Re: KDE PR machine?? Register bought by KD   
Eric Laffoon
Oct 4, 2001, 23:21:20
 
> > but to publicly state that you wish  ...   Re: Re: The Register: Biting the hand that feeds F   
iserlohn
Oct 4, 2001, 23:21:22
 
read d'title. ...   Galleon rules, but GTK sucks. a mjor dilema...   
amigo
Oct 4, 2001, 23:27:54
 
We use both at work. Both have their pro ...   Clean versus Clutter: it's your choice   
Mike Rasmusson
Oct 4, 2001, 23:33:30
 
> Just another "freedom" advocate who ge ...   Re: Re: The Register: Biting the hand that feeds F   
Costin
Oct 4, 2001, 23:34:57
 
But it drives us nuts that the best KDE  ...   Two invalid points   
Evandro
Oct 4, 2001, 23:54:09
 
I could be wrong, but I think that there ...   Re: Re: Gnome ahead in browsers only   
Anonymous Coward
Oct 5, 2001, 00:01:16
 
> > Just another "freedom" advocate who  ...   Re: Re: Re: The Register: Biting the hand that fee   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Oct 5, 2001, 00:11:12
 
Ahhm,

Last time I checked - QT is ope ...   Re: one more @#@$%*& time...   
Hetz Ben Hamo
Oct 5, 2001, 00:48:05
 
 But it drives us nuts that the best KDE ...   Clipboard   
Leon Brooks
Oct 5, 2001, 01:06:52
 
> > > Just another "freedom" advocate wh ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: The Register: Biting the hand that   
Jerry
Oct 5, 2001, 01:12:03
 
Has someone been performing voodoo ritua ...   Night of the Living Dead....threads   
Daniel
Oct 5, 2001, 01:20:31
 
> I could be wrong, but I think that the ...   Re: Re: Re: Gnome ahead in browsers only   
Daniel
Oct 5, 2001, 01:29:05
 
It may be nearly over already, Art.  Wit ...   Re: This article is dead on.   
Jerry
Oct 5, 2001, 01:36:53
 
GNOME will never die. There are hundreds ...   This sort of thing proves lots of people don't   
Martin Sevior
Oct 5, 2001, 01:42:42
 
I'm not sure what the article was sa ...   Re: Clipboard   
Havoc Pennington
Oct 5, 2001, 01:50:32
 
> They got it right.  If this was an art ...   KDE users.... was Bingo   
ToeKnee
Oct 5, 2001, 01:51:35
 
> If I use QT I HAVE to give it away or  ...   Re: KDE users.... was Bingo   
jj
Oct 5, 2001, 02:32:21
 
thanks for the reply...

I guess I cou ...   Re: Re: theme engine...   
error27
Oct 5, 2001, 02:35:30
 
KDE has NO replacements for these apps.
 ...   One Last Comment   
ToeKnee
Oct 5, 2001, 02:45:41
 
Trying to pretend that one desktop or th ...   Seriously, though...   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Oct 5, 2001, 02:51:47
 
> Say, I wan't to write an app for L ...   Re: KDE users.... was Bingo   
Roberto Alsina
Oct 5, 2001, 03:06:42
 
>The GNOME desktop itself is ideal for m ...   Re: the author is clueless   
Curious
Oct 5, 2001, 04:27:47
 
My younger brother (24 yrs old) wanted t ...   I haven't read the above... BUT   
searcher
Oct 5, 2001, 04:37:35
 
KDE users *and* developers do tend to fl ...   I'm sorry but ...   
Chris Conrad
Oct 5, 2001, 04:38:41
 
Subject: Free as in speech

Dear Mr Or ...   My letter to the author   
Mark
Oct 5, 2001, 04:50:00
 
> It may be nearly over already, Art.  W ...   Re: Re: This article is dead on.   
EA
Oct 5, 2001, 07:31:46
 

> I use Ximian's GNOME at home, I  ...   Re: I'm sorry but ...   
jj
Oct 5, 2001, 07:32:44
 
> While the QT code is GPL, the existing ...   Re: one more @#@$%*& time...   
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Oct 5, 2001, 07:58:06
 

> 1) What's wrong with using the d ...   Interoperability problems   
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Oct 5, 2001, 08:07:48
 
> KDE has NO replacements for these apps ...   Re: One Last Comment   
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Oct 5, 2001, 08:27:37
 

> Now, De Icaza is evangelizing on MON ...   Re: Re: This article is dead on.   
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Oct 5, 2001, 08:36:15
 
> > Galeon - Tabbed views, works on almo ...   Re: Re: One Last Comment   
Roberto Alsina
Oct 5, 2001, 09:11:29
 
GNOME 2.0 is round the cortnet. It's ...   KDEers scared.   
Enrique Arizón Benito
Oct 5, 2001, 09:31:30
 
receives so much criticism?  

I could ...   I don't know why the author   
Ben Almond
Oct 5, 2001, 10:25:24
 
The article is an almost information fre ...   Why top story?   
Alan Johnson
Oct 5, 2001, 10:37:50
 
I am a KDE user 
.
and I am puzzled wh ...   sound card use simultaneusly   
milksheik
Oct 5, 2001, 10:54:05
 
 It never ceases to amaze me how irratio ...   Re: Re: KDE PR machine?? Register bought b   
Costin
Oct 5, 2001, 10:57:39
 
It's pretty clear that this article  ...   Relax guys   
Joergen Ramskov
Oct 5, 2001, 11:12:57
 
I recently held a 2 day Linux seminar fo ...   First impressions, KDE 28, Gnome 0   
AC
Oct 5, 2001, 11:38:29
 
The biggest problem with GNOME is that i ...   Bad coherency in GNOME   
DrXym
Oct 5, 2001, 11:39:33
 
> > KDE has NO replacements for these ap ...   You can use both (Re: One Last Comment)   
MacroRodent
Oct 5, 2001, 11:57:47
 
> After the past couple days, I'll b ...   Re: KDE users.... was Bingo   
Kevin
Oct 5, 2001, 12:13:48
 
> It may be nearly over already, Art. Wi ...   Re: Re: This article is dead on.   
Rainer Weikusat
Oct 5, 2001, 12:35:07
 
> Since when is not reinventing the whee ...   Re: Re: Re: Gnome ahead in browsers only   
Janne
Oct 5, 2001, 12:41:50
 
--For a long time, I used KDE (pre-curre ...   I switched from KDE to Gnome...   
Wolfrider
Oct 5, 2001, 13:10:57
 
> 
> > 1) What's wrong with using t ...   Re: Interoperability problems - RTFM   
auspex
Oct 5, 2001, 15:22:42
 
> We use both at work. Both have their p ...   Re: Clean versus Clutter: it's your choice   
James E> LaBarre
Oct 5, 2001, 15:24:05
 
> What is the point of having 2 incompat ...   Re: I don't know why the author   
Rainer Weikusat
Oct 5, 2001, 15:26:13
 
pretend that you are playing mp3s with a ...   Re: sound card use simultaneusly   
error27
Oct 5, 2001, 15:38:30
 
> I'm not sure what the article was  ...   Re: Re: Clipboard   
auspex
Oct 5, 2001, 15:43:31
 
As long as there are those willing to ta ...   It keeps going, and going,....   
Alan
Oct 5, 2001, 16:20:41
 
> KDE has NO replacements for these apps ...   Re: One Last Comment   
makohund
Oct 5, 2001, 17:39:42
 
If the posting hadn't mentioned that ...   Re: register flamebait   
Richard N. Turner
Oct 5, 2001, 18:10:08
 
We're starting to see GTK apps for W ...   GTK 1.2x has problems but at least it's GPL (*   
ac
Oct 5, 2001, 23:01:06
 
> GNOME 2.0 is round the cortnet. It&#39 ...   Re: KDEers scared.   
ac
Oct 5, 2001, 23:12:06
 
After trying Gnome and KDE on mandrake 8 ...   Conclusion   
Savant
Oct 6, 2001, 00:41:13
 
Actually, GTK is GPL nowhere. It is LGPL ...   Re: GTK 1.2x has problems but at least it's GP   
Roberto Alsina
Oct 6, 2001, 01:10:17
 
> >  If Trolltech goes out of buisness,  ...   Re: Re: KDE users.... was Bingo   
J. J. Ramsey
Oct 6, 2001, 05:10:56
 
I have been running Linux for several ye ...   KDE Integration   
tve
Oct 6, 2001, 17:02:19
 
An objective and well reasoned article. ...   Objective   
Hugh
Oct 6, 2001, 21:42:23
 
and the fact is that I'm posting thi ...   Facts is facts ...   
Darren
Oct 7, 2001, 03:40:50
 
> > Since when is not reinventing the wh ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: Gnome ahead in browsers only   
Smiley Ben
Oct 7, 2001, 09:43:10
 
In america we call it freedom of speech, ...   Re: The Register: Biting the hand that feeds FREED   
kernski
Oct 7, 2001, 10:37:48
 
> We use both at work. Both have their p ...   stop being zealots and start being realistic   
kernski
Oct 7, 2001, 11:36:39
 
Arg! You people blather on about user ch ...   What do you want?   
Mike
Oct 7, 2001, 13:33:26
 
> and the fact is that I'm posting t ...   Re: Facts is facts ...but which facts matters   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Oct 7, 2001, 13:37:28
 
I think he was making the point that the ...   Re: Re: Facts is facts ...but which facts matters   
mike
Oct 7, 2001, 18:55:15
 
 Just a note on being "cluttered" and yo ...   Re: stop being zealots and start being realistic   
Tony
Oct 7, 2001, 21:52:13
 
> Arg! You people blather on about user  ...   Re: What do you want?   
tony
Oct 7, 2001, 21:55:25
 
Exactly, who needs a dozend applications ...   Re: What do you want?   
Joop
Oct 8, 2001, 00:10:57
 
> And who get's to choose this "unif ...   Re: Re: What do you want?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Oct 8, 2001, 02:13:51
 
Although I respect Gnome, and to tell th ...   I agree...   
Phil P.
Dec 21, 2001, 18:54:45
 
> We need GNome because a single check w ...   Re: one more @#@$%*& time...   
Phil P.
Dec 21, 2001, 19:03:48
 
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