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:Richard Stallman: We can put an end to Word attachments
Richard Stallman: We can put an end to Word attachments
Jan 11, 2002, 03 :03 UTC (221 Talkback[s]) (65541 reads)

(Other stories by Richard M. Stallman)

By Richard M. Stallman

Don't you just hate receiving Word documents in email messages? Word attachments are annoying, but worse than that, they impede people from switching to free software. Maybe we can stop this practice with a simple collective effort. All we have to do is ask each person who sends us a Word file to reconsider that way of doing things.

Most computer users use Microsoft Word. That is unfortunate for them, because Word is proprietary software, denying its users the freedom to study, change, copy, and redistribute it. And because Microsoft changes the Word file format with each release, its users are locked into a system that compels them to buy each upgrade whether they want a change or not. They may even find, several years from now, that the Word documents they are writing this year can no longer be read with the version of Word they use then.

But it hurts us, too, when they assume we use Word and send us (or demand that we send them) documents in Word format. Some people publish or post documents in Word format. Some organizations will only accept files in Word format: Someone I know was unable to apply for a job because resumes had to be Word files. Even governments sometimes impose Word format on the public, which is truly outrageous.

For us users of free operating systems, receiving Word documents is an inconvenience. But the worst impact of sending Word format is on people who might switch to free systems: They hesitate because they feel they must have Word available to read the Word files they receive. The practice of using the secret Word format for interchange impedes the growth of our community and the spread of freedom. While we notice the occasional annoyance of receiving a Word document, this steady and persistent harm to our community usually doesn't come to our attention. But it is happening all the time.

Many GNU users who receive Word documents try to find ways to handle with them. You can manage to find the somewhat obfuscated ASCII text in the file by skimming through it. There is free software now that can read some subset of Word documents. The format is secret and has not been entirely decoded; as long as Microsoft keeps changing the format, we can't expect these programs to be perfect.

If you think of the document you received as an isolated event, it is natural to try to cope with it on your own. But when you recognize it as an instance of a pernicious systematic practice, it calls for a different approach. Managing to read the file is treating a symptom of a chronic illness. To cure the illness, we must convince people not to send or post Word documents.

For about a year, I've made a practice of responding to Word attachments with a polite message explaining why the practice of sending Word files is a bad thing, and asking the person to resend the material in a non-secret format. This is a lot less work than trying to read the somewhat obfuscated ASCII text in the Word file. And I find that people usually understand the issue, and many say they will not send Word files to others any more.

If we all do this, we will have a much larger effect. People who disregard one polite request may change their practice when they receive multiple polite requests from various people. We may be able to give "don't send Word format" the status of netiquette, if we start systematically raising the issue with everyone who sends us Word files.

To make this effort efficient, you will probably want to develop a canned reply that you can quickly send each time it is necessary. I've included two examples: the version I have been using recently, followed by a new version that teaches a Word user how to convert to other useful formats.

You can use these replies verbatim if you like, or you can personalize them or write your own. By all means, construct a reply that fits your ideas and your personality -- if the replies are personal and not all alike, that will make the campaign more effective.

These replies are meant for individuals who send Word files. When you encounter an organization that imposes use of Word format, that calls for a different sort of reply; there you can raise issues of fairness that would not apply to an individual's actions.

With our numbers, simply by asking, we can make a difference.

Example No. 1:

You sent the attachment in Microsoft Word format, a secret proprietary format, so I cannot read it. If you send me the plain text, HTML, or PDF, then I could read it.

Sending people documents in Word format has bad effects, because that practice puts pressure on them to use Microsoft software. In effect, you become a buttress of the Microsoft monopoly. This specific problem is a major obstacle to the broader adoption of GNU/Linux. Would you please reconsider the use of Word format for communication with other people?

Example No. 2:

You sent the attachment in Microsoft Word format, a secret proprietary format, so it is hard for me to read. If you send me plain text, HTML, or PDF, then I will read it.

Distributing documents in Word format is bad for you and for others. You can't be sure what they will look like if someone views them with a different version of Word; they may not work at all.

Receiving Word attachments is bad for you because they can carry viruses (see http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/acro.html). Sending Word attachments is bad for you, because a Word document normally includes hidden information about the author, enabling those in the know to pry into the author's activities (maybe yours). Text that you think you deleted may still be embarrassingly present. See http://www.microsystems.com/Shares_Well.htm for more info.

But above all, sending people Word documents puts pressure on them to use Microsoft software and helps to deny them any other choice. In effect, you become a buttress of the Microsoft monopoly. This pressure is a major obstacle to the broader adoption of free software. Would you please reconsider the use of Word format for communication with other people?

Converting the file to HTML is simple. Open the document, click on File, then Save As, and in the Save As Type strip box at the bottom of the box, choose HTML Document or Web Page. Then choose Save. You can then attach the new HTML document instead of your Word document. Note that versions of Word change in inconsistent ways -- if you see slightly different menu item names, please try them.

To convert to plain text is almost the same -- instead of HTML Document, choose Text Only or Text Document as the Save As Type.

Example No. 3:

Here's another approach, suggested by Bob Chassell. It requires that you edit it for the specific example, and it presumes you have a way to extract the contents and see how long they are.

I am puzzled. Why did you choose to send me 876,377 bytes in your recent message when the content is only 27,133 bytes?

You sent me five files in the non-standard, bloated .doc format that is Microsoft's secret, rather than in the international, public, and more efficient format of plain text.

Microsoft can (and did recently in Kenya and Brazil) have local police enforce laws that prohibit students from studying the code, prohibit entrepreneurs starting new companies, and prohibit professionals offering their services. Please don't give them your support.


Copyright 2001 Richard Stallman
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Have you ever actually tried using Star  ...   RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Lee
Jan 11, 2002, 03:18:29
 
This really is getting out of hand.  At  ...   Good policy   
Larry Povirk
Jan 11, 2002, 03:20:59
 
According to the most recent issue of US ...   Professor Stallman   
W. Wayne Liauh
Jan 11, 2002, 03:28:16
 
Maybe add a suggestion that they downloa ...   AbiWord   
anonymous
Jan 11, 2002, 03:32:50
 
Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peopl ...   Word   
Craig
Jan 11, 2002, 03:35:19
 
Regular users and business users don&#39 ...   Business environment reeks   
Ahsan Imam
Jan 11, 2002, 03:39:40
 
I agree with Richard's rationale. Bu ...   Beyond That   
David Johnson
Jan 11, 2002, 04:01:04
 
Those example replies are just weird. I& ...   Sorry Richard, but no...   
JoeSchmoe
Jan 11, 2002, 04:05:19
 
:) ...   this is good ammo...   
yuri vil
Jan 11, 2002, 04:07:26
 
Unix-based engineers at our company have ...   It does work, sometimes   
Jon Leech
Jan 11, 2002, 04:15:18
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Calvin Kim
Jan 11, 2002, 04:25:34
 
This silly rant just again shows how out ...   Once again...   
Anonymous
Jan 11, 2002, 04:26:40
 
Even though I have Soffice and Abiword,  ...   I agree   
Anthony
Jan 11, 2002, 04:28:24
 
I agree whole heartedly in principle...H ...   Ship has sailed, unfortunately   
Stuart DeGraaf
Jan 11, 2002, 04:33:32
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Codifex Maximus
Jan 11, 2002, 04:34:08
 
But Mr. Stallman proposes an alternative ...   Re: Business environment reeks   
Tanel Külaots
Jan 11, 2002, 04:34:47
 
I like AbiWord... I know it'll read  ...   Re: AbiWord   
Codifex Maximus
Jan 11, 2002, 04:36:23
 
I might be ill advised, but I think RTF  ...   RTF?   
Tim
Jan 11, 2002, 04:38:02
 
I think he has written well.  He even sh ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Kent Nguyen
Jan 11, 2002, 04:40:20
 
Nope he is still Richard Stallman to me. ...   Re: Professor Stallman   
Kent Nguyen
Jan 11, 2002, 04:43:16
 
Likewise have you not have any people sk ...   Re: Word   
Kent Nguyen
Jan 11, 2002, 04:45:31
 
kind of impossible, everyone know that w ...   Utopia work space   
Boon
Jan 11, 2002, 04:45:32
 
You completely missed the point.RMS poin ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Dan
Jan 11, 2002, 04:50:51
 
there is not a lot on which rms and i ag ...   he's right   
dep
Jan 11, 2002, 04:51:34
 
Perhaps he will discuss it with you by s ...   Re: Word   
Thomas Corriher
Jan 11, 2002, 04:54:40
 
As much as I dislike my M$ adicted cowor ...   Format? What's a format?   
Rod Haper
Jan 11, 2002, 04:59:41
 
> Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peo ...   Re: Word   
Michael G.
Jan 11, 2002, 05:05:38
 
I get these quite often as well.  So as  ...   Thanks Richard   
William B. Greenwood Jr.
Jan 11, 2002, 05:06:57
 
It's not all that difficult.  My com ...   once more please   
Nick
Jan 11, 2002, 05:16:37
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Svartalf
Jan 11, 2002, 05:22:10
 
> Or do you [RMS] need "Star Office for  ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Thomas Corriher
Jan 11, 2002, 05:24:26
 
> Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peo ...   Re: Word   
Svartalf
Jan 11, 2002, 05:25:41
 
I am force to agree. Those particular on ...   Re: Sorry Richard, but no...   
Doug Nordwall
Jan 11, 2002, 05:28:51
 
Why does everyone use PDF?Isn't it j ...   Isn't PDF just as bad?   
curveclimber
Jan 11, 2002, 05:31:06
 
I worked at a world leading clinical hos ...   Not so long ago..   
David D. Huff Jr.
Jan 11, 2002, 05:34:30
 
This is absolutely correct. Word documen ...   Right as usual..   
MikeFM
Jan 11, 2002, 05:35:44
 
I barely have problems with attachments  ...   Evolution + OpenOffice.   
Miguel de Icaza
Jan 11, 2002, 05:37:04
 
I have been doing this for long time. I  ...   I have been doing this   
Ramana Juvvadi
Jan 11, 2002, 05:40:10
 
When I get an attachment I can't ope ...   Or, for the non-socially-dysfunctional...   
Otter
Jan 11, 2002, 05:40:27
 
I know that abiword and star office can  ...   The security point is enough for me.   
error27
Jan 11, 2002, 05:47:56
 
In response to this article:  Prof. Stal ...   Good call Schmoe   
TrendyMicrowave
Jan 11, 2002, 05:56:05
 
I send such replies to people in my pers ...   For office situations...   
Ganesh Prasad
Jan 11, 2002, 05:56:12
 
The issue is 'who owns our data' ...   Sound idea   
Neil Timms
Jan 11, 2002, 06:00:37
 
The strings command works for me to get  ...   Strings   
jean deaux
Jan 11, 2002, 06:14:57
 
Dear Mr Stallman,  I work in a shop tota ...   MS crossfire with XP & Office   
BernardTremblay
Jan 11, 2002, 06:17:22
 
I usually tell people I don't do Wor ...   Another way to convince them...   
Farrell McGovern
Jan 11, 2002, 06:27:27
 
> Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peo ...   Re: Word   
ChrisDR
Jan 11, 2002, 06:32:09
 
Here's the canned reply I've bee ...   success with my canned reply   
Brett Wuth
Jan 11, 2002, 06:44:44
 
Word docs are also the biggest propagato ...   bad even for Word users   
Mike
Jan 11, 2002, 06:53:00
 
http://www.winfield.demon.nl/ ...   antiword (use it with mutt :)   
m1ha5
Jan 11, 2002, 06:55:41
 
You seem to miss the point completely. R ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
James
Jan 11, 2002, 06:58:01
 
You obviously need Ms Manners for unwash ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Foobar Jones
Jan 11, 2002, 07:06:22
 
What do you suggest as format if I have  ...   Dear Mr. Stallman   
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Jan 11, 2002, 07:20:37
 
Mr. Stallman,Your replies seem pretty ha ...   The responses seem to be a little haughty...   
R. Douglas Barbieri
Jan 11, 2002, 07:22:25
 
Couldn't this reply be automatically ...   procmail automation   
J. Lucha
Jan 11, 2002, 07:26:55
 
RMS's examples are good, and so is J ...   Re: Sorry Richard, but no...   
bryan buchanan
Jan 11, 2002, 07:43:54
 
> Why does everyone use PDF?> Isn't  ...   Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
Brett Wuth
Jan 11, 2002, 07:51:46
 
I once had a professor who gave out assi ...   Not bad...here's even more...   
J
Jan 11, 2002, 07:58:56
 
> Couldn't this reply be automatical ...   Re: procmail automation   
Martin Vermeer
Jan 11, 2002, 07:59:18
 
My company requires that I use MS Exchan ...   RMS is right but at work..   
Eric Canzler
Jan 11, 2002, 08:07:07
 
But ten again to each his own. I'm u ...   Ridiculous   
Senkwe Chanda
Jan 11, 2002, 08:17:52
 
WTF!, are you nuts? send me Plain Text!c ...   my reply to word attachment   
Xunil Ung
Jan 11, 2002, 08:28:29
 
> BTW, I just use OpenOffice-641C, it op ...   Re: Dear Mr. Stallman   
Philip Dodd
Jan 11, 2002, 08:46:57
 
YOu just don't seem to get the point ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
JeroenM
Jan 11, 2002, 08:50:10
 
I am not always reading main using a PC. ...   Reading mail using non PC appliances   
Ruben Decrop
Jan 11, 2002, 08:54:04
 
I'm in college.  Most (All?) of my f ...   Re: Utopia work space   
ac
Jan 11, 2002, 09:14:29
 
Until you use something so basic as a ta ...   Re: AbiWord   
steve
Jan 11, 2002, 09:14:45
 
I totally agree with Richard Stallman.   ...   Agreement With RMS   
Joe Humrickhouse
Jan 11, 2002, 09:15:54
 
> kind of impossible, everyone know that ...   Re: Utopia work space   
Matteo Ianeselli
Jan 11, 2002, 09:18:19
 
 :0 HB:* ^(\Content-Type.*application/\/ ...   How about this?   
Bojan Smojver
Jan 11, 2002, 09:20:32
 
>>HTML may be a substitute but I think t ...   Re: Not so long ago..   
error27
Jan 11, 2002, 09:21:59
 
XPDF does a decent job of reading PDF fi ...   Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
Cujo Smurf
Jan 11, 2002, 09:25:20
 
I like that better than my 'I ain&#3 ...   Re: Or, for the non-socially-dysfunctional...   
Cujo Smurf
Jan 11, 2002, 09:30:04
 
I've been using wv (www.wvware.com)  ...   mailcap script for application/msword   
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Jan 11, 2002, 09:35:24
 
"I am sorry but I do not use Microsoft W ...   another alternative is..   
orly_andico
Jan 11, 2002, 09:42:16
 
> Why does everyone use PDF?> Isn't  ...   Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
Matteo Ianeselli
Jan 11, 2002, 09:49:54
 
"You have sent me an email using the Int ...   Re: Re: Sorry Richard, but no...   
Vadim
Jan 11, 2002, 09:51:08
 
i actually knew someone who decided to l ...   Don't joke...   
Tariq
Jan 11, 2002, 09:53:39
 
> Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peo ...   Re: Word   
Harry O
Jan 11, 2002, 09:59:27
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
D. Long
Jan 11, 2002, 10:10:36
 
> The real problem I have is the HTML fo ...   Re: RMS is right but at work..   
Alex
Jan 11, 2002, 10:10:42
 
> Even though I have Soffice and Abiword ...   Re: I agree   
D. Long
Jan 11, 2002, 10:16:34
 
> Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peo ...   Re: Word   
Soren
Jan 11, 2002, 10:23:10
 
> Regular users and business users don&# ...   Re: Business environment reeks   
Alex
Jan 11, 2002, 10:24:47
 
> > Why does everyone use PDF?> > Isn&#3 ...   Re: Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
MacroRodent
Jan 11, 2002, 10:58:41
 
http://www.edwdebono.com/Edward de Bono  ...   Thinker request radical   
zink
Jan 11, 2002, 11:08:51
 
I totally agree with Stallman here. The  ...   Ruminations on document format problems   
MacroRodent
Jan 11, 2002, 11:19:22
 
Subject says it all I think - my underst ...   What about RTF instead of Doc?   
Mark
Jan 11, 2002, 11:37:13
 
There are so many 'garbage mails&#39 ...   How about spreading other format   
gwlin
Jan 11, 2002, 11:42:40
 
RTF is a resonable file format for Word  ...   Re: RTF?   
hey
Jan 11, 2002, 11:51:24
 
*Besides I claim that Carthage must be d ...   *Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam* :))   
R.L.
Jan 11, 2002, 11:58:11
 
They just DONT KNOW that Word is just AN ...   Feel SORRY for those people...   
Luciano Giordana
Jan 11, 2002, 12:38:58
 
Good point, Calvin....... ...   Re: Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Chad McCullough
Jan 11, 2002, 12:42:37
 
Yes! You perfectly nailed the absurdity  ...   Re: Or, for the non-socially-dysfunctional...   
Brad
Jan 11, 2002, 13:06:49
 
I have roundly critisized Richard Stallm ...   Suddenly Stallman validates!   
Eric Laffoon
Jan 11, 2002, 13:13:22
 
What I have found is that when I ask for ...   Been doing this for 4 years now   
a.c.
Jan 11, 2002, 13:14:20
 
I'm not smart like the Star Office f ...   stuffit   
grouch
Jan 11, 2002, 13:14:58
 
I must admit it doesn't really bothe ...   Viewing word docs   
Jayne Heger
Jan 11, 2002, 13:15:10
 
> RTF is a resonable file format for Wor ...   Re: Re: RTF?   
MacroRodent
Jan 11, 2002, 13:37:06
 
...because they cannot.  Anyone who trie ...   NOBODY sends me MS Word attachments...   
David F. Skoll
Jan 11, 2002, 13:44:04
 
For those of you that work are a pure M$ ...   some thoughts   
a.c
Jan 11, 2002, 13:44:07
 
I'm an advocate of Open Source and a ...   RMS   
Dan G
Jan 11, 2002, 13:59:06
 
There are alternatives for formatted-tex ...   what about XLS? PPT?   
Kris
Jan 11, 2002, 14:21:06
 
Mr. Stallman this would just annoy peopl ...   Re: Word   
I R A Darth Aggie
Jan 11, 2002, 14:21:07
 
1) Office documents formats didn't c ...   RMS: Bunch of lies...   
Rajan Rishyakaran
Jan 11, 2002, 14:24:10
 
Hope they stoke that fire up in Hell aga ...   Hell freezes, I agree completely.   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jan 11, 2002, 14:45:59
 
...> For they use Word as an e-mail edit ...   Re: Re: Business environment reeks   
Dale Pontius
Jan 11, 2002, 14:48:03
 
I AM NOT AN MS ADVOCATE. I ESPOUSE STEVE ...   Word + VBA Kicks butt   
Ed Matthews
Jan 11, 2002, 14:57:15
 
We have 15000 workstations and 250 serve ...   Re: MS crossfire with XP & Office   
I R A Darth Aggie
Jan 11, 2002, 15:00:39
 
What you be really cool is if Mozilla-ma ...   What about a flexible mail program to auto reply t   
Nicholas Allen
Jan 11, 2002, 15:01:40
 
May be I can jump in for my opinion: Abi ...   Re: Dear Mr. Stallman   
CLU
Jan 11, 2002, 15:01:58
 
Re my first post, If the gist is just, " ...   Word as email client = BAD   
Ed Matthews
Jan 11, 2002, 15:09:29
 
Sort of like dealing with folks not smok ...   Like second hand smoke   
Steve Harris
Jan 11, 2002, 15:09:51
 
If they insist on receiving .doc format  ...   Re: Been doing this for 4 years now   
dwr1
Jan 11, 2002, 15:11:32
 
> 1) Office documents formats didn't ...   Re: RMS: Bunch of lies...   
Sjaak Zomer
Jan 11, 2002, 15:22:27
 
Get a new job. Doesn't the glow of w ...   Re: MS crossfire with XP & Office   
yuri vil
Jan 11, 2002, 15:27:11
 
Can anyone point me to a *single tool* t ...   Re: Word + VBA Kicks butt   
Wol
Jan 11, 2002, 15:31:33
 
People send me the weirdest stuff... mos ...   Oh, yeah; my e-mail logs...   
David F. Skoll
Jan 11, 2002, 15:34:26
 
For a couple of years, I've been usi ...   Some Software to help you reply   
Neal Holtz
Jan 11, 2002, 15:35:27
 
> People send me the weirdest stuff... m ...   Re: Oh, yeah; my e-mail logs...   
Brian Proffitt
Jan 11, 2002, 15:49:05
 
Like Dean and DEP, I don't agree wit ...   Good Idea RMS!   
tc
Jan 11, 2002, 15:51:11
 
> They just DONT KNOW that Word is just  ...   Re: Feel SORRY for those people...   
Alex
Jan 11, 2002, 15:51:52
 
I thought they made software for their c ...   Re: Word + VBA Kicks butt   
yuri vil
Jan 11, 2002, 15:54:04
 
Could have opened in vi or emacs?  Whats ...   Re: Re: I agree   
Rajendra
Jan 11, 2002, 15:56:35
 
> > 2) PDF is propeitary and almost land ...   Re: Re: RMS: Bunch of lies...   
MacroRodent
Jan 11, 2002, 15:57:28
 
RTF is a resonable file format for Word  ...   Re: RTF?   
hey
Jan 11, 2002, 16:06:00
 
> Dear Mr Stallman,>   I work in a shop  ...   Re: MS crossfire with XP & Office   
boogeyman
Jan 11, 2002, 16:23:35
 
It is an interesting approach on how to  ...   Re: Re: Been doing this for 4 years now   
a.c.
Jan 11, 2002, 16:26:35
 
Heh, this is the solution I'd like t ...   Re: Right as usual..   
Larry
Jan 11, 2002, 16:27:21
 
> Why does everyone use PDF?> Isn't  ...   Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
reader
Jan 11, 2002, 16:27:38
 
Wel,, this would be nice.  However, in m ...   Richard Stallman: We can put an end to Word attac   
James D. Freels
Jan 11, 2002, 16:34:23
 
Isn't the ultimate irony for a recru ...   Resumes   
Bill Zimmerly
Jan 11, 2002, 16:45:04
 
 They just DONT KNOW that Word is just A ...   Re: Feel SORRY for those people...   
ac
Jan 11, 2002, 16:46:59
 
Ok, folks. A number of you are saying th ...   PDF is editable   
a.c.
Jan 11, 2002, 16:48:10
 
As its seems there are mainly valid poin ...   Awareness and Ignorance   
TMC
Jan 11, 2002, 16:54:33
 
``It does work, sometimes Unix-b ...   Proprietary attachments go way back.   
Richard N. Turner
Jan 11, 2002, 17:01:10
 
I'm using Windows 2000 and MS Office ...   The MS Office suite in business environments have   
Jeroen
Jan 11, 2002, 17:03:44
 
It's polite and diplomatic - no call ...   Is this really RMS?   
Uai Zass
Jan 11, 2002, 17:36:31
 
> Likewise have you not have any people  ...   Re: Re: Word   
toby cabot
Jan 11, 2002, 17:41:00
 
> kind of impossible, everyone know that ...   Re: Utopia work space   
James E LaBarre
Jan 11, 2002, 17:47:40
 
> This silly rant just again shows how o ...   Re: Once again...   
Reaperx1
Jan 11, 2002, 18:08:39
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Rick Ellis
Jan 11, 2002, 18:12:52
 
> ...because they cannot.  Anyone who tr ...   Re: NOBODY sends me MS Word attachments...   
Rick Ellis
Jan 11, 2002, 18:16:48
 
> If they insist on receiving .doc forma ...   Re: Re: Been doing this for 4 years now   
James E LaBarre
Jan 11, 2002, 18:18:52
 
GOOD POINT!> Likewise have you not have  ...   Re: Re: Word   
anonymous
Jan 11, 2002, 18:32:10
 
Oh, if MS Office is so great and has so  ...   Re: The MS Office suite in business environments h   
daK
Jan 11, 2002, 18:48:18
 
> Isn't the ultimate irony for a rec ...   Re: Resumes   
Svartalf
Jan 11, 2002, 19:13:22
 
> > Have you ever actually tried using S ...   Re: Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Svartalf
Jan 11, 2002, 19:19:46
 
I do not have microsoft office and I can ...   Example 4   
vasu muppalla
Jan 11, 2002, 19:20:48
 
> Yes It's NOT FREE. Yes, it's f ...   Re: Word + VBA Kicks butt   
Joachim Holst
Jan 11, 2002, 19:24:12
 
  ...   WHO would send a word doc to RMS???   
anonymous
Jan 11, 2002, 19:24:22
 
If you do not like Stallman's replie ...   Another examples   
Ramon
Jan 11, 2002, 19:28:50
 
>"..so heavily programmable that you can ...   Re: The MS Office suite in business environments h   
SM
Jan 11, 2002, 20:02:25
 
The majority of computer users are just  ...   Unrealistic assumptions and expectations   
Trevor Jenkins
Jan 11, 2002, 20:02:46
 
What is it ? Are you telling us "keeping ...   Re: Evolution + OpenOffice.   
Luciano Giordana
Jan 11, 2002, 20:29:24
 
I agree, but there are cases where even  ...   Re: Re: Feel SORRY for those people...   
Luciano Giordana
Jan 11, 2002, 20:34:19
 
I will attach any document i see fit in  ...   Open Source Word Processors Suck   
Lostin Spacial
Jan 11, 2002, 20:46:08
 
I'm not just saying this because the ...   Re: Evolution + OpenOffice.   
Brandon Dorman
Jan 11, 2002, 21:56:04
 
I tell people I am in the Linux world, n ...   I dont' accept word formats, I tell people to   
Mark Nielsen
Jan 11, 2002, 22:28:30
 
This isn't a bad idea, but I do have ...   Why should the Word sender change?   
Jason Fletcher
Jan 11, 2002, 22:47:09
 
Sounds to me like you just described LaT ...   Re: Word + VBA Kicks butt   
Jim Parker
Jan 11, 2002, 23:01:49
 
I believe that it is a more powerful to  ...   Maybe not such a good idea   
Prometheus
Jan 11, 2002, 23:06:58
 
Microsoft does things like "licensing" s ...   competition good. Monopoly bad.   
Jeff Adkins
Jan 11, 2002, 23:35:49
 
The sender should comply because only he ...   Re: Why should the Word sender change?   
SM
Jan 12, 2002, 00:13:18
 
MS does not change the Word file format  ...   not true   
true
Jan 12, 2002, 01:22:21
 
Beginning with MSOffice 2000, the "save  ...   HTML conversion no good   
rc peters
Jan 12, 2002, 01:23:06
 
>  hell  I would!  just for the stir val ...   Re: WHO would send a word doc to RMS???   
Rick
Jan 12, 2002, 06:57:02
 
Jason Fletcher wrote:This isn't a ba ...   Re: Why should the Word sender change?   
Arne Adolfsen
Jan 12, 2002, 07:32:32
 
well I don't know if anyone get the  ...   Gnu/linux   
GuyClo
Jan 12, 2002, 07:50:26
 
 The simple solution, and one which we e ...   Just say no   
Brian Clancey
Jan 12, 2002, 17:11:50
 
I am doing a project that involves a dat ...   Latest event involving Word.   
Mario Miyojim
Jan 12, 2002, 17:58:59
 
Dude, are you new or what?  There are li ...   Are you new?   
Matt
Jan 12, 2002, 18:41:02
 
"Copyright 2001 Richard Stallman"This ar ...   So why the copyright?   
JB Franklin
Jan 12, 2002, 18:44:53
 
> I will attach any document i see fit i ...   Re: Open Source Word Processors Suck   
reaperx1
Jan 12, 2002, 20:06:07
 
> Dude, are you new or what? Ummmmm....H ...   Re: Are you new?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jan 12, 2002, 20:20:00
 
I use both Linux and Windows. I find the ...   Good Idea   
pigeonflight
Jan 13, 2002, 02:24:25
 
> > Dude, are you new or what? > Ummmmm. ...   Re: Re: Are you new?   
Jon
Jan 13, 2002, 04:24:27
 
> Why does everyone use PDF?> Isn't  ...   Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
a.
Jan 13, 2002, 11:14:52
 
Mr Stallman does not understand the busi ...   How to break the Microsoft Office monopoly   
Jim
Jan 13, 2002, 11:33:14
 
> > Why does everyone use PDF?> > Isn&#3 ...   Re: Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
MacroRodent
Jan 13, 2002, 14:12:18
 
> No open source product is as powerful  ...   Re: How to break the Microsoft Office monopoly   
MacroRodent
Jan 13, 2002, 14:30:05
 
> Worse than that, but you have to buy t ...   Re: Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Jan 13, 2002, 14:59:31
 
I wanna world peace.But, our country is  ...   For world peace   
jun
Jan 13, 2002, 15:18:06
 
You are missing the point.The point is n ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Daniel Carrera
Jan 13, 2002, 21:02:27
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Christian
Jan 13, 2002, 21:25:28
 
>> Regular users and business users don& ...   Re: Re: Business environment reeks   
Fred Mobach
Jan 13, 2002, 21:44:54
 
First of all, you are wrong.Microsoft DO ...   Re: not true   
Daniel Carrera
Jan 13, 2002, 21:46:47
 
 Have you ever actually tried using Star ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Ramon
Jan 13, 2002, 23:32:19
 
Yo Fred !Right you are.In the beginning  ...   Re: Re: Re: Business environment reeks   
Ramon
Jan 13, 2002, 23:48:02
 
Surely the most important what's in  ...   Re: Why should the Word sender change?   
Phil Weston
Jan 14, 2002, 00:03:06
 
What's interesting is that I once re ...   right on RMS!   
Larry Braden
Jan 14, 2002, 09:10:06
 
> I'm all for open source software,  ...   Communication (was: Open Source Word Processors Su   
Fred Mobach
Jan 14, 2002, 11:09:37
 
> This isn't a bad idea, but I do ha ...   Re: Why should the Word sender change?   
Fred Mobach
Jan 14, 2002, 11:17:39
 
This is an automatically generated reply ...   Example 5   
Dennis Furey
Jan 14, 2002, 13:56:25
 
>This means that you don't want to c ...   Re: Communication (was: Open Source Word Processor   
Alex
Jan 14, 2002, 14:18:23
 
> It's Friday afternoon of a long we ...   Re: Re: Why should the Word sender change?   
Jason Fletcher
Jan 14, 2002, 15:32:20
 
I think that Matt is having a joke.Cours ...   Re: Re: Are you new?   
jake
Jan 14, 2002, 15:43:31
 
Alex,> What would these people send to s ...   Re: Communication (was: Open Source Word Processor   
Fred Mobach
Jan 14, 2002, 15:50:17
 
Inclusive the ones of RMS ... fact that  ...   All these examples are too verbose   
R.L.
Jan 14, 2002, 16:50:18
 
Like RMS, I also dread seeing a *.doc at ...   Standards for communication should be open   
Glyn Adgie
Jan 14, 2002, 17:08:24
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Chopped Liver
Jan 14, 2002, 19:03:27
 
I also immediately thought of RTF. Somet ...   Re: RTF?   
Johannes Wiele
Jan 17, 2002, 12:28:15
 
> This silly rant just again shows how o ...   Re: Once again...   
frank
Jan 22, 2002, 12:49:06
 
>>> I, for one, am staggered by people w ...   Re: Dear Mr. Stallman   
John Hinsdale
Jan 23, 2002, 05:17:33
 
> What do you suggest as format if I hav ...   Re: Dear Mr. Stallman   
Aelius Maximus
Apr 4, 2002, 06:53:32
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Aelius Maximus
Apr 4, 2002, 07:11:59
 
> Have you ever actually tried using Sta ...   Re: RMS, can you use Star Office?   
Robert Heller
Aug 30, 2002, 16:32:59
 
> I might be ill advised, but I think RT ...   Re: RTF?   
Robert Heller
Aug 30, 2002, 16:39:38
 
> Why does everyone use PDF?> Isn't  ...   Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
Robert Heller
Aug 30, 2002, 16:45:56
 
> Couldn't this reply be automatical ...   Re: procmail automation   
Robert Heller
Aug 30, 2002, 17:13:56
 
> > No open source product is as powerfu ...   Re: Re: How to break the Microsoft Office monopoly   
Robert Heller
Aug 30, 2002, 18:51:11
 
> 1) Office documents formats didn't ...   Re: RMS: Bunch of lies...   
Ken Roberts
Jan 1, 2003, 00:53:24
 
I have a problem in generating the posts ...   doubt on postscript file generation   
R.J. Rama Sree
Apr 13, 2004, 06:17:30
 
http://www.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/wp.html ...   See URL   
NA
May 14, 2004, 17:59:06
 
A canned reply like this:--SECURITY ALER ...   casual allusion to word macro virus terrorists   
The Monster
May 22, 2004, 20:54:37
 
PDF is just as bad. 50 percent of my PDF ...   Re: Re: Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
L505
Sep 30, 2005, 02:34:00
 
Right, I don't see what the big adva ...   Re: RMS: Bunch of lies...   
L505
Sep 30, 2005, 02:38:03
 
Original text:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...   Re: Re: RMS: Bunch of lies...   
L505
Sep 30, 2005, 02:43:56
 
>> Why does everyone use PDF?>> Isn' ...   Re: Re: Isn't PDF just as bad?   
L505
Sep 30, 2005, 02:47:35
 
Evince is a great PDF viewer for Linux a ...   Evince   
Casey Watson
Jun 1, 2006, 17:04:33
 
> The best layout is NOT simple text, ot ...   Re: Re: Re: RMS: Bunch of lies...   
80c51
Jun 10, 2009, 10:34:44
 
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