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:Editor's Note: Cloud is Just Another Word for "Sucker"
Editor's Note: Cloud is Just Another Word for "Sucker"
Nov 14, 2009, 00 :03 UTC (47 Talkback[s]) (12849 reads)

(Other stories by Carla Schroder)

by Carla Schroder
Managing Editor

As much as we warn about privacy, security, and reliability problems in cloud computing, it's coming and we can't stop it. So do we join the cloud party? Heck no.

It seems like it should have some advantages. Geeks back in the olden days used to say that a simple network appliance running hosted applications would be a good thing for unsophisticated users. Pay a monthly fee just like for phone services, use a subsidized terminal, and let the vendor have all the headaches of security, provisioning, system administration, updates, backups, and maintenance. What a boon for the business owner-- outsource to a service provider, no muss, no fuss, and everyone is happy.

Broken Trust

Well here we are on the threshold of this very thing, and now the geeks are complaining and warning against it. Why? Because we like to be perverse? Well maybe that is part of it. But for me the biggest problem is trust. I don't trust many tech vendors because they haven't given me any reasons to trust them, and plenty of reasons to not trust them. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

Why would I entrust them with my data when they do not respect my privacy or the privacy of my data? In the US personal privacy is not protected, and vendors who mangle and lose your personal or business data pay no penalty or recourse, other than bearing the brunt of your peeve. Marketers are all about privacy invasion, as much as they can get away with, and collecting, mining, and buying and selling us. Even worse, service providers roll over at the slightest "boo", releasing customer records at toothless DMCA takedown requests, and caving in to law enforcement without even making them go through due process. Where are all those attack lawyers when they can do some good for a change?

No-Nines Reliability

Reliability is a second issue. Google and Skype, to give two famous examples, have distributed datacenters but both have suffered a number of outages and service interruptions. (Speaking of Skype, the excellent columnist J.A. Watson doesn't think much of them.) Even if the cloud vendor has perfect uptimes there are many weak links between the customer and datacenter. In this glorious year 2009 of the 21st century it is still a common recommendation to have two diverse Internet connections. But even if you want to spend the money the wires are consolidated and have a small number of chokepoints. Like when a fiber cable near Pendleton, Oregon was cut a couple of years ago, and it wiped out much of the telephone and Internet for Eastern Oregon. Or when backbone providers have spats with other over peering agreements and teach each other lessons by cutting each other off, leaving customers stranded. So what do we do for redundancy, train some carrier pigeons? Learn ham radio? Interpretive dance?

Performance: Haha

The third problem is why in the heck would any sane person trade in their nice sleek efficient standalone applications for a horrible boggy Web browser abomination with a hundredth of the functionality? I do demanding jobs on my studio computer, both audio production and photo editing. You know what kicks my CPU into the red zone and keeps it there, and eats RAM like popcorn and hits the swap partition until it's crying for mercy? Not loading and editing a gigabyte audio file, or converting a big batch of multi-megabyte RAW files. What brings my whole system to a halt until some half-baked junk script finishes running? Plain old Web surfing and various Web apps I have to use. I'm not keen to buy a desktop supercomputer just to have decent browser performance.

Nobody would even be looking at Web apps if we didn't have all these closed, proprietary file formats and steep barriers to migrating to sane, open platforms and applications.

The cloud, software as a service, hosted applications, whatever you want to call it is coming. The concepts are useful, but I have little faith in the implementations.

A Practical Alternative

As always in Linux-land, there is a role for the do-it-yourselfer to turn dung into gold. Come back next week and I will tell about this.

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
I agree, the current promotion of all th ...   Thanks Carla, well said!   
Robert
Nov 14, 2009, 00:57:06
 
Cloud computing for applications is a go ...   Cloud Computing   
grep
Nov 14, 2009, 02:44:58
 
I would never trust my data to the cloud ...   cloud computing   
Mike McGinn
Nov 14, 2009, 03:35:23
 
>Cloud computing for applications is a g ...   Re: Cloud Computing   
Robert
Nov 14, 2009, 04:04:54
 
I'm proud to have been an early skep ...   I agree!   
Emery
Nov 14, 2009, 04:34:35
 
It's a huge scam. I have a a top end ...   Cloud computing = next bubble   
FreeBooteR
Nov 14, 2009, 04:50:13
 
Signing on to the mainframe to run my pr ...   I've already been there   
Bill Peterson
Nov 14, 2009, 04:51:52
 
Yes Carla, you are right and I agree ful ...   Nice article   
Pietro Pesci Feltri
Nov 14, 2009, 06:04:41
 
(Apologies to Bob Ross.)For the end-user ...   Happy clouds?   
The Man Who Japed
Nov 14, 2009, 06:06:32
 
Someone who is saying exactly what I&#39 ...   Finally...   
Dave
Nov 14, 2009, 06:46:21
 
We are speaking about critical usage in  ...   I Disagree   
pradeepchandar
Nov 14, 2009, 10:59:06
 
The best way to use cloud computing is a ...   Privacy and data mining   
SM
Nov 14, 2009, 11:33:05
 
>   It struck me like a method of going  ...   Re: I agree!   
beerintrousers
Nov 14, 2009, 11:58:00
 
I can only agree that it's the imple ...   Head in the cloud...   
Roszyk
Nov 14, 2009, 13:27:28
 
Like all technology cloud computing is a ...   Get a Grip   
Jeff
Nov 14, 2009, 14:26:19
 
Foil hats and prophecies of doom aside,  ...   It's not ALL bad.   
Henaway
Nov 14, 2009, 15:08:15
 
...with all the benefits eliminated.Carl ...   Thin Client Redux...   
cjm
Nov 14, 2009, 16:38:30
 
If you want a secure cloud, build it you ...   do it yourself   
Roland
Nov 14, 2009, 17:17:45
 
I have the same lack of trust about vend ...   I would agree. Nice article Carla..   
Daemon_ZOGG
Nov 14, 2009, 17:23:10
 
Nice to see this article at a Linux site ...   Nice Article   
Damm
Nov 14, 2009, 17:43:58
 
It's called "the cloud" because some ...   Why it's called the "cloud"   
wumpus
Nov 14, 2009, 17:47:22
 
So what do we do for redundancy, train s ...   Interpretive dance   
sc
Nov 14, 2009, 18:57:37
 
I remember the advent of the desktop per ...   Cloud Computing and Dumb Terminals   
Kevin Benko
Nov 14, 2009, 19:10:08
 
But users already hand over storage of t ...   Re: Privacy and data mining   
grep
Nov 14, 2009, 20:20:52
 
If you want a secure cloud, build it you ...   Re: do it yourself   
grep
Nov 14, 2009, 20:30:54
 
> Signing on to the mainframe to run my  ...   Re: I've already been there   
GaAsP
Nov 14, 2009, 20:45:27
 
Really, what problem is supposed to be " ...   "Cloud" an answer, but what was the question?   
Bob_Robertson
Nov 14, 2009, 20:49:37
 
Few things are so overrated as cloud com ...   Absolutely!   
Larry Povirk
Nov 14, 2009, 21:57:26
 
> Don't let the term "thin client" f ...   Dumb Terminals - way to miss the point   
littlenoodles
Nov 14, 2009, 23:11:48
 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/po ...   UK wants to store private medical records on Googl   
SM
Nov 14, 2009, 23:53:45
 
"...And the 'cloud' can (and usu ...   Re: Dumb Terminals - way to miss the point   
cjm
Nov 15, 2009, 00:22:10
 
This Cloud computing is more of a powerf ...   WHO does it really serve?   
linux23dragon
Nov 15, 2009, 01:04:03
 
Google's privacy guaranteed opt out: ...   Hold on everything's fine, Google has an opt-o   
SM
Nov 15, 2009, 01:48:13
 
We have developed our own personal cloud ...   Personal clouds will be the fiuture..   
Jeff Cobb
Nov 15, 2009, 03:46:02
 
Many points in your article are well tak ...   privacy concerns   
Joe Blow
Nov 15, 2009, 03:51:54
 
Disclaimer: I work for a "cloud" computi ...   Baloney   
Lars
Nov 15, 2009, 05:32:23
 
> We are speaking about critical usage i ...   Re: I Disagree   
Rainer Weikusat
Nov 15, 2009, 10:31:09
 
> Disclaimer: I work for a "cloud" compu ...   Re: Baloney   
Rainer Weikusat
Nov 15, 2009, 10:53:34
 
I wanna second anything the author said  ...   Finally a(nother) voice of reason   
Brian
Nov 15, 2009, 12:34:31
 
"You trust your bank with your money, do ...   Re: Baloney   
damaged justice
Nov 15, 2009, 13:20:53
 
"...You trust your bank with your money, ...   Re: Baloney   
cjm
Nov 15, 2009, 14:49:02
 
> > I don't have - and never had - a ...   Re: Re: Baloney   
Rufus Polson
Nov 15, 2009, 19:19:38
 
Recently the cloud computing model got b ...   Sidekicked   
Greg B
Nov 15, 2009, 20:38:04
 
As Greg B reminded us, the recent M$/Sid ...   It is a religion   
Robert
Nov 15, 2009, 23:53:05
 
Aside from all the issues with privacy,  ...   the cloud as a business model   
Greg P
Nov 16, 2009, 00:47:16
 
Yes it's only a pretty name for "mai ...   Cloud Computing   
Harry Barracuda
Nov 16, 2009, 06:00:01
 
I agree with Greg P.No matter what featu ...   RE: the cloud as a business model   
coin
Nov 16, 2009, 22:10:44
 
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