"de Icaza: Yes, definitely. They have been talking
about opening up and improving interoperability since February, and
in March at the Mix-conference you really could see them talking a
lot more about engaging with the community, open specs and process.
And I was just there a couple of weeks ago for another of our
regular meetings and I had the chance to not only talk to the top
management but to actual engineers and developers. And what was
interesting: The really got the message. I don't know if it was an
internal message or if they are asking people to think in that way
but in the last six months there has been a significant amount of
change inside Microsoft."