"Shuttleworth's post started a long thread; there were
plenty of anti- posts and a few in support.
"One reply from developer Matthias Andree was noteworthy if only
for the fact that it was from the one breed who rarely figured in
"Andree is an upstream maintainer of fetchmail (remote-mail
retrieval and forwarding utility) and leafnode (an NNTP news server
for small networks). He is also a co-maintainer of bogofilter (a
"Andree questioned some of Shuttleworth's arguments by pointing
out that any move towards joint freezes by Debian and Ubuntu would
not result in developers becoming any friendlier towards Ubuntu,
but the reverse."