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:Toshiba finds workaround to Microsoft End-User License Agreement bug
Toshiba finds workaround to Microsoft End-User License Agreement bug
Feb 27, 1999, 23 :45 UTC (28 Talkback[s]) (15687 reads)

Bradley J. Willson posted to the Linux-Biz mailing list:

Everett Linux User Group II met today for the second time and it was there that a new dirty trick was exposed. One of the new attendees (I didn't catch his name) brought in a new Toshiba notebook, and explained that he found a "legal agreement" on the plastic wrap that states if you open the plastic, you accept the terms of the sale. So much for loading Linux before using the computer! They seem to have found a way around the EULA and have the consumer by the short hairs before the floppy ever reaches the drive.

If there is a legal expert on the list, please consider this in light of the recent Windows Refund Day event and make suggestions as appropriate. I am inclined to boycott any manufacturer that corners the consumer in that fashion.

You can complain to the FTC using this form.


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
Does Toshiba care to explain the tems of ...   What are the terms of the sale   
Roshan K Thomas
Feb 28, 1999, 00:02:15
 
The plastic on the windows install disk, ...   What plastic are they talking about?   
grappler
Feb 28, 1999, 00:09:14
 
Shouldn't it be illegal to make you  ...   Illegal?   
James Ryan
Feb 28, 1999, 00:11:27
 
Toshiba, as cool as Lance Ito made it (h ...   First IRDA and now this...   
A. Poo
Feb 28, 1999, 00:19:31
 
What a bunch of losers. I won't be b ...   Toshiba is no longer my friend   
Jeff Alami
Feb 28, 1999, 01:02:00
 
Simple, isn't it?  Their machines, a ...   Jut don't buy Toshiba!   
Bill Rugolsky
Feb 28, 1999, 01:30:15
 
There are now very good alternatives to  ...   Avoid Toshiba   
x
Feb 28, 1999, 01:37:46
 
...or more specifically didn't pay a ...   I got my money back...   
Dr.Claw
Feb 28, 1999, 02:08:15
 
Simple as that.

Regards

David Buddrige ...   I won't be buying Toshiba.   
David Buddrige
Feb 28, 1999, 02:16:47
 
The EULA says you have a right to a refu ...   Terms include right to a refund.   
Nathan Myers
Feb 28, 1999, 02:39:01
 
and soon the seas will swarm over the sh ...   the tide rises   
Wyatt Foard
Feb 28, 1999, 03:25:01
 
 ...   This doesn't count does it?   
ArsonSmith
Feb 28, 1999, 06:42:58
 
Hello,
Okay we had refund day and we got ...   I say we picket!   
Thomas Wickline
Feb 28, 1999, 06:51:41
 
I have heard that this type of thing has ...   This doesn't count does it?   
ArsonSmith
Feb 28, 1999, 07:02:22
 
At least in Finland consumer protection  ...   In FInland wrap-agreements are void   
Ville Oksanen
Feb 28, 1999, 07:20:32
 
Why not just order a laptop from one of  ...   It does not matter   
Scott Howell
Feb 28, 1999, 08:36:29
 
Unless the EULA is on the plastic wrap,  ...   Accepting EULA before you read it?   
Randy
Feb 28, 1999, 09:38:11
 
I don't think Toshiba can make 2 dif ...   Conflicting contracts   
Andy Froncioni
Feb 28, 1999, 09:44:01
 
I'm not a loyer, but to me the norwe ...   Doesn't cut it in Norway   
x
Feb 28, 1999, 10:05:40
 
I'm leaving for San Jose in an hour, ...   Some investigation is due...   
Kit Cosper
Feb 28, 1999, 10:21:14
 
There was a 1997 court case challenging  ...   Legal precedent says enforceability of EULA depend   
Simon Hill
Feb 28, 1999, 11:05:41
 
The FTC ( http://www.ftc.gov ) has a com ...   Complain to the FTC   
Anonymous Coward
Feb 28, 1999, 14:07:32
 
...with pride! ...   Posted to FTC!   
Another Coward
Feb 28, 1999, 21:16:13
 
Good to hear that in those European coun ...   Licensing problem   
DJ
Feb 28, 1999, 21:47:51
 
Several Manufacturers do support Linux.  ...   Support those that do   
Joe Kaplenk
Mar 1, 1999, 13:51:30
 
That is so bogus.  I don't think peo ...   License   
Andy Campbell
Mar 1, 1999, 15:29:18
 
Assuming you have a little money to wast ...   Two can play.   
Anthony Ord
Mar 6, 1999, 12:46:40
 
this is very interesting reading.  i hav ...   toshiba laptop   
R Weaver
Apr 20, 1999, 14:09:57
 
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