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:WinInfo: Linux Adoption Stories Not What They Seem
WinInfo: Linux Adoption Stories Not What They Seem
Nov 1, 2001, 19 :37 UTC (70 Talkback[s]) (12966 reads)

(Other stories by Paul Thurrott)

"Some high-profile Linux adoption stories have circulated lately that feature companies such as Amazon and Intel espousing the wonders of the open-source solution. One crucial fact these stories don't reveal, however, is that these Linux adoptions are replacing proprietary and expensive versions of UNIX, not Windows. And as both Amazon and Intel are quick to point out, neither company has even considered replacing Windows boxes with Linux.

Amazon's story is typical. The company reports that adopting Linux cut its technology costs nearly 25 percent last quarter--a key concern given the current economic climate and Amazon's historic inability to perform financially. "The decline in absolute dollars spent primarily reflects our migration to a Linux-based technology platform that utilizes a less-costly technology infrastructure, as well as general price reductions for data and telecommunications services due to market overcapacity," the company said in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Technology news agencies seized on these comments as a huge win for Linux and, possibly, a huge loss for Windows. What they didn't point out, however, is that Amazon replaced proprietary UNIX servers with Linux, which it uses for its back-end services. Amazon also uses Oracle database software for its e-commerce operations.

Meanwhile, Intel Vice President for Information Technology Doug Busch made comments this week that also hit the radar of the anti-Microsoft press. Busch said that Intel has saved millions of dollars by implementing an intranet application based on Napster-like technology that lets the company inexpensively share streaming-video feeds across the corporation. Busch says the software, which runs on small Intel-based Linux servers, has saved the company $200 million this year. But again, Intel's previous solution ran on massive and expensive UNIX servers, machines that didn't use Intel technology. When asked whether the company would ever consider replacing its Windows machines with Linux, Busch said absolutely not, noting the lack of "robust office packages" on that platform. And Busch threw another wrench into any mass Linux migration by noting that the overall cost of Linux and Windows 2000 is almost identical after you factor in support and maintenance."

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Related Stories:
Yahoo!/Reuters: Intel Says Inspired by Napster to Change IT Systems (Oct 30, 2001)
CNET news.com: Amazon Saves Millions With Linux Switch(Oct 30, 2001)


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This is the usual pure flamebait from Th ...   Pure flamebait   
Wilddev
Nov 1, 2001, 19:49:09
 
Sorry, I know it's campy movie quote ...   I sense much fear in you....   
Nicholas Donovan
Nov 1, 2001, 19:50:18
 
The point of these stories are not neces ...   looks like *they* missed the point   
Brian Wheeler
Nov 1, 2001, 19:53:49
 
The real story here is that Microsoft is ...   Ho, hum...   
MrManager
Nov 1, 2001, 19:53:49
 
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/fe/xml ...   And just a few headlines earlier...   
Jamie
Nov 1, 2001, 19:55:38
 
..., these companies certainly didn' ...   However...   
Chris
Nov 1, 2001, 19:55:42
 
> One crucial fact these stories don&#39 ...   Bzzzt, Wrong   
anon2
Nov 1, 2001, 19:57:27
 
The author is right, both Intel and Amaz ...   He's right, to a point . . .   
Jim Lender
Nov 1, 2001, 19:57:48
 
Wellllllllll it seems M$ has a new VP po ...   Minister of Propoganda   
apple pie
Nov 1, 2001, 19:58:44
 
Blather on, fanboy.  Microsoft makes mon ...   So what?   
Art Cancro
Nov 1, 2001, 20:00:18
 
Yes, they are at the expensive of propri ...   *laugh*   
Ben Rosenberg
Nov 1, 2001, 20:01:17
 
And I guess the fact that windows XP is  ...   Win XP replacing NT   
Bill Nuxli
Nov 1, 2001, 20:02:36
 
Clue for these people- without Linux, th ...   Geez...   
Svartalf
Nov 1, 2001, 20:04:06
 
Microsoft has tried to sell themselves a ...   Big error in article   
Ben Ploni
Nov 1, 2001, 20:06:29
 
Any publicity is good publicity.   Even  ...   Who care's what MS apologists say so long as t   
Alan W. Irwin
Nov 1, 2001, 20:14:34
 
You know we're winning when they pub ...   Whistling past the graveyard   
Doug Loss
Nov 1, 2001, 20:15:33
 
What a sorry excuse for a story.

Firs ...   Whistling thru the graveyard!!   
Tim Wasson
Nov 1, 2001, 20:17:47
 
> > One crucial fact these stories don&# ...   Re: Bzzzt, Wrong   
Tim Wasson
Nov 1, 2001, 20:21:24
 
The way I see it.
Double Happiness.

 ...   double happiness   
someguin
Nov 1, 2001, 20:22:50
 
Sorry, didn't mean to copy your subj ...   Re: Whistling past the graveyard   
Tim Wasson
Nov 1, 2001, 20:24:00
 
and none of them even hinted that Intel  ...   I read those articles...   
Brent R. Matzelle
Nov 1, 2001, 20:27:49
 
"And Busch threw another wrench into any ...   shot themselves in the foot   
bryanb buchanan
Nov 1, 2001, 20:43:29
 
Mozilla can't even post a message on ...   His Website Follows MSN's Policies   
Brent Hawkins
Nov 1, 2001, 20:59:35
 
Yea yea yea .. first Linux was "just a t ...   little "toy" that could ..   
Spike_cb
Nov 1, 2001, 21:02:38
 
Anecdotal evidence of the movement of Li ...   Replacing NT servers... & Win desktops   
Paul Hubert
Nov 1, 2001, 21:10:32
 
The author did nothing more than demonst ...   Clueless, at best.   
Ernest Pecounis
Nov 1, 2001, 21:19:57
 
It's all about market share if Winbl ...   Windows wasn't good enough to move to..   
David D. Huff Jr.
Nov 1, 2001, 21:30:01
 
>One crucial fact these stories don' ...   Curious phrasing...   
certron
Nov 1, 2001, 21:49:08
 
Heh-

I remember reading a BYTE magazi ...   Re: Whistling thru the graveyard!!   
Jeffery C. Cann
Nov 1, 2001, 22:00:38
 
Linux will replace Unix as we all know b ...   Ah yes but it was supposed to be Windows   
James
Nov 1, 2001, 22:00:42
 
The author is correct, to a degree.

B ...   Past, present, future   
Brandioch Conner
Nov 1, 2001, 22:06:40
 
http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/17/eto ...   see etoys as well   
James
Nov 1, 2001, 22:11:01
 
This article misses a third big score fo ...   What about Boscovs?   
Mike Grello
Nov 1, 2001, 22:18:10
 
Of course these companies are getting th ...   Unix->linux is much safer than Unix->NT   
Rob
Nov 1, 2001, 22:30:10
 
first they ignore you.
then they laugh  ...   WRAP UP   
Ron McKown
Nov 1, 2001, 22:30:35
 

We all know Microsoft and their softwa ...   Foot and Mouth Disease   
William B. Greenwood Jr.
Nov 1, 2001, 22:33:23
 
Just imagine adding just an X server to  ...   And now for our main program....   
Serge Gagné
Nov 1, 2001, 22:57:42
 
OK, the other day on the news I see that ...   Funny maths   
Rajendra
Nov 1, 2001, 23:00:10
 
One crucial fact this WinInfo story does ...   What the WinInfo Story Left Out   
David Johnson
Nov 1, 2001, 23:07:04
 
>Spin away Microsoft, every organization ...   Re: I sense much fear in you....   
Rufus Polson
Nov 1, 2001, 23:30:17
 
These installations are sales Microsoft  ...   Re: So what?   
Rufus Polson
Nov 1, 2001, 23:38:50
 
A) This guy is no more clueless than mos ...   Me too, me too!   
JJS
Nov 1, 2001, 23:42:10
 
C# appears to be going nowhere fast--J2E ...   Is anyone buying any C# books?   
dc
Nov 1, 2001, 23:43:09
 
 Intel discovered that Macs were 4x chea ...   A story from Intel: why people are replacing Windo   
Leon Brooks
Nov 1, 2001, 23:45:47
 
When a thing is new they say "it isn&#39 ...   Not new?   
Dan Clayton
Nov 1, 2001, 23:47:25
 
> Just imagine adding just an X server t ...   X on Windows (was: main program)   
Leon Brooks
Nov 1, 2001, 23:58:47
 
> The real story here is that Microsoft  ...   Re: Ho, hum...   
Rick James
Nov 2, 2001, 00:16:17
 
Why do Windows defenders always use the  ...   use of word "proprietary"   
EKMacAdie
Nov 2, 2001, 00:35:31
 
> > These installations are sales Micros ...   Re: Re: So what?   
EnderKosh
Nov 2, 2001, 01:07:02
 
It's to smile.

As the late not-so ...   UnAmerican! UnAmerican! Listen to me when I tell   
Dean Pannell (a.k.a. dinotrac)
Nov 2, 2001, 01:59:53
 
They big thing that everyone is missing  ...   A few points   
Tim Dion
Nov 2, 2001, 02:08:39
 
Hmm, I don't recall the articles cla ...   Whistling through the Graveyeard on Halloween   
flacco
Nov 2, 2001, 02:12:11
 
> A) ...
> ...
> F) Kudos to all the O ...   Re: Me too, me too!   
R.L.
Nov 2, 2001, 02:19:44
 
Quote:

Another point these Linux adop ...   This point is critical...   
Scott Marlowe
Nov 2, 2001, 02:27:57
 
It's really funny how Linux enthusia ...   Funny   
Tom
Nov 2, 2001, 03:03:55
 
You can tell when someone is desparate w ...   Desparation   
Les Brunswick
Nov 2, 2001, 03:29:16
 
http://www.wininformant.com. "Linux Adop ...   *winformant* :)) nomen est omen.   
R.L.
Nov 2, 2001, 04:09:26
 
Yes the Linux solution replaced some hig ...   Did not replace Unix with Windows   
D. McGarty
Nov 2, 2001, 04:35:17
 
>  Intel discovered that Macs were 4x ch ...   Re: A story from Intel: why people are replacing W   
Michael G.
Nov 2, 2001, 05:33:54
 
Agreed.                                  ...   Re: This point is critical...   
R.L.
Nov 2, 2001, 06:42:20
 
> Microsoft really has no idea what to d ...   Re: Desparation   
R.L.
Nov 2, 2001, 06:48:54
 
> ..., these companies certainly didn&#3 ...   Re: However...   
Rainer Weikusat
Nov 2, 2001, 06:55:15
 
Lest we forget, it was nt boxes replacin ...   'linux eats our lunch everywhere but the sacre   
Sleepy
Nov 2, 2001, 07:03:29
 
"It is interesting to be able to report  ...   Open source taking market share from MS   
Colin Walls
Nov 2, 2001, 08:52:52
 
There was some reason to choose Linux an ...   Re: shot themselves in the foot   
Corneliu I. Tusnea
Nov 2, 2001, 11:00:12
 

Today a collegue phoned me to tell tha ...   Linux on the server and the desktop   
Fred Mobach
Nov 2, 2001, 15:35:38
 
 Why do Windows defenders always use the ...   Re: use of word   
Myddrin
Nov 2, 2001, 15:38:57
 
> These installations are sales Microsof ...   Re: Re: So what?   
Jonathan M. Prigot
Nov 2, 2001, 16:11:47
 
> Well, arguably they may not have been. ...   Re: Re: So what?   
Svartalf
Nov 2, 2001, 22:22:33
 
> Boxes sold and then immediately defene ...   Re: Re: So what?   
Rainer Weikusat
Nov 3, 2001, 08:37:30
 
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