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Microsoft Aims to Bring Apache and .NET Together
Jul 24, 2002, 21 :00 UTC (47 Talkback[s]) (20103 reads)

(Other stories by Bob Liu)

By Bob Liu

Software titan Microsoft is taking a significant step toward appeasing the open source community by integrating its .NET Framework into the Apache Web server, the world's most popular back-end software for serving up Web pages.

Although Microsoft isn't working directly with the Apache Software Foundation, the Redmond, WA, company has announced a deal with Covalent Technologies, a San Francisco-based consulting firm that specializes in Apache implementations throughout the enterprise. Under the deal, the companies announced that Apache 2.0, as available in Covalent's Enterprise Ready Server, is now compatible with Microsoft ASP.NET -- a server-side, object-oriented programming tool that is an integral part of Microsoft's .NET vision.

For Microsoft, the announcement, which was made at an open source developer conference in San Diego hosted by O'Reilly, demonstrates how important Web services (and, hence, its much-touted .NET Framework) has become. Supporting Apache flies directly in the face of its own Internet Information Server, or IIS, development efforts. But Microsoft still wants developers to adopt ASP.NET code even if it means allowing them to turn to Apache at the expense of IIS.

"It's a sign that ASP.NET is just that important to them," said Jim Zemlin, vice president of marketing at Covalent.

Traditionally, the operations side of an IT department has relied heavily on Apache as opposed to IIS because of its greater security. However, with the February release of Visual Studio .NET, IT developers have increasingly been creating programs that obligated their operations counterparts to use IIS. That is, until today.

The combination of ASP.NET, Covalent's Apache product, and Windows 2000 provides a strong enterprise solution allowing development and operations groups to independently utilize technologies that meet their needs, Covalent said in its prepared remarks.

The news comes a day after Microsoft promised to integrate .NET applications with Oracle databases. But Wednesday's Apache announcement is the strongest signal to date that Microsoft is trying to abide by its promise to promote cross-platform integration.

"It's good to hear Microsoft is going to work with [Apache], they have told us that cross-platform integration is big," said Jay Pitzer, vice president of sales and marketing at NetEdge Software, a Wake Forest, N.C.-based consulting firm that uses .NET extensively for systems integration.

As for undermining Microsoft's own proprietary Web server software that also announced today along with its final preview version of its .NET Server, Pitzer explained that Microsoft is simply realizing that is the cost of doing business.

"They realize that the world doesn't revolve around them. In the big enterprise, there are so many different types of systems and Microsoft has done a great job to provide a platform for multiple platforms to engage each other."

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ADTmag.com: ADT's Programmers Report: Open-Source Servers Today(Jun 21, 2002)
Guest Commentary: Web Services, Java and .NET by Ganesh Prasad(Oct 29, 2001)
Guest Column: Will Open Source Lose the Battle for the Web?(Aug 14, 2001)
The Economist: Has Microsoft Changed? A kinder, gentler gorilla?(Apr 28, 2001)


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Dont bring your rubbish to us. You disse ...   PHP will do thanks   
Franklin
Jul 24, 2002, 21:11:05
 
.. after you've written all your web ...   you may find   
Rocky Walsh
Jul 24, 2002, 21:12:25
 
they could do the following.Open the .do ...   If Microsoft really is serious...   
John Helms
Jul 24, 2002, 21:14:51
 
. . . I don't *leap* for joy.  Bad b ...   You'll forgive me if   
Rufus Polson
Jul 24, 2002, 21:21:29
 
.Ok, so they expect me to take a stable  ...   Just another trap...   
Londo
Jul 24, 2002, 21:26:10
 
I don't believe any good will come f ...   First get everybody hooked, then let them pay   
Alexander Verkuijl
Jul 24, 2002, 21:27:57
 
That's my advice to Covalent. I know ...   Take the money and run   
Eric Laffoon
Jul 24, 2002, 21:40:38
 
sorry.. I don't see pigs flyin. Micr ...   embrace, extend, exterminate   
codez
Jul 24, 2002, 21:45:24
 
Embrace & Extend & Exterminate ...Rememb ...   Embrace & Extend   
xxx
Jul 24, 2002, 21:45:55
 
"They (Microsoft) realize that the world ...   Hell has frozen over, News at 11!   
Cougar
Jul 24, 2002, 21:46:31
 
Does this mean that we will see .NYET fo ...   Does this mean...   
Dennis
Jul 24, 2002, 21:52:49
 
Does anyone else feel like they are bein ...   This feels funny   
Zeph
Jul 24, 2002, 21:57:45
 
and extend anyone?  ...   Embrace...   
Vincent van Adrighem
Jul 24, 2002, 22:13:22
 
Microsoft is just trying to put their ow ...   Microsoft must think we're stupid   
anon2
Jul 24, 2002, 22:23:00
 
"Luke, it's a trap!" - Princess Leia ...   Luke!   
SamIam
Jul 24, 2002, 22:47:18
 
After mating, a female black widow spide ...   Microsoft=Female Black Widow Spider   
SamIam
Jul 24, 2002, 22:51:32
 
> I'll get to laugh at Bill Gates wh ...   Re: Microsoft must think we're stupid   
is
Jul 24, 2002, 22:55:32
 
i thought this is weird too. i don't ...   i waited to post   
yuri vil
Jul 24, 2002, 23:58:19
 
This is the embrace. If it weren't f ...   The BEAST does not change it's stripes   
David D. Huff Jr.
Jul 25, 2002, 00:40:08
 
This announcement doesn't mean that  ...   What it really means   
Ganesh Prasad
Jul 25, 2002, 00:41:03
 
They'd also need to make a binding c ...   Re: If Microsoft really is serious...   
Charles Hixson
Jul 25, 2002, 00:44:57
 
Just another try at owning the protocols ...   Re: Just another trap...   
Dango
Jul 25, 2002, 00:45:13
 
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised th ...   Re: Microsoft must think we're stupid   
NaySayer
Jul 25, 2002, 01:36:54
 
I cover the technology section for a cer ...   If I May Be So Bold   
David Streater
Jul 25, 2002, 02:09:09
 
Why all of a sudden is M$ looking at Apa ...   Why not IIS?   
Joe User
Jul 25, 2002, 04:06:48
 
 All I can say is I've been covering ...   Re: If I May Be So Bold   
flacco
Jul 25, 2002, 04:51:57
 
> .. after you've written all your w ...   Re: you may find   
Zoran
Jul 25, 2002, 07:03:03
 
How will MS "exterminate" as you say, a  ...   Relax   
Senkwe Chanda
Jul 25, 2002, 08:30:38
 
You know the saying "if you can beat &#3 ...   Dangerous move...   
Alessandro Coppo
Jul 25, 2002, 09:37:01
 
If you're working at an all MS shop  ...   There is one place where this makes sense.   
RGM
Jul 25, 2002, 10:16:41
 
> How will MS "exterminate" as you say,  ...   Re: Relax   
Rocky Walsh
Jul 25, 2002, 13:13:27
 
MS realizes that getting .NET into as ma ...   MS Strategy   
Greg Smith
Jul 25, 2002, 13:20:17
 
> Dont bring your rubbish to us. You dis ...   Re: PHP will do thanks   
yan
Jul 25, 2002, 13:32:35
 
> > How will MS "exterminate" as you say ...   Re: Re: Relax   
senkwe chanda
Jul 25, 2002, 14:51:33
 
I didn't think the talk backs would  ...   how strange   
Senkwe Chanda
Jul 25, 2002, 15:10:42
 
If I recall, Traficants sole vote came f ...   Re (3): Relax   
Rocky Walsh
Jul 25, 2002, 15:53:08
 
You challenged me to name one feature of ...   Re: Re: PHP will do thanks   
Franklin
Jul 25, 2002, 16:20:21
 
Again, the paranoia is rampant.  Get out ...   Many missed the boat. ...   
tc
Jul 25, 2002, 19:31:11
 
> One of the talkback participants did h ...   Re: Many missed the boat. ...   
Rufus Polson
Jul 25, 2002, 21:33:37
 
They are only talking about writing a .n ...   Re: There is one place where this makes sense.   
Scott Carr
Jul 25, 2002, 21:37:20
 
> they could do the following.microsoft  ...   Re: If Microsoft really is serious...   
patrick
Jul 25, 2002, 21:51:18
 
>...I would be utterly astounded if Micr ...   Re: Re: Many missed the boat. ...   
tc
Jul 25, 2002, 23:00:20
 
I have no idea what else would be needed ...   Re: Re: There is one place where this makes sense.   
RGM
Jul 25, 2002, 23:29:29
 
I can certainly see them offering this s ...   Apache on what platform?   
Gordon Staines
Jul 26, 2002, 00:03:49
 
I see posters Senkwe and tc are still ig ...   Do Not Trust Microsoft (re: Senkwe and tc)   
anon2
Jul 26, 2002, 01:07:36
 
Read the white paper on Covalents' w ...   Not 'cross-platform'   
Chris
Jul 26, 2002, 13:08:58
 
So ASP.NET has on-demand, compilation li ...   Re: Re: Re: PHP will do thanks   
yan
Jul 26, 2002, 22:45:32
 
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