Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:28:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: Michael Hudson mwh21@cam.ac.uk
To: python-announce-list@python.org
Subject: python-dev summary, 2001-03-01 – 2001-03-15
This is a summary of traffic on the python-dev mailing list
between Mar 1 and Mar 14 (inclusive) 2001. It is intended to inform
the wider Python community of ongoing developments. To comment,
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ideas discussed by the community, so don’t hesitate to take a
stance on a PEP if you have an opinion.
This is the third python-dev summary written by Michael Hudson.
Previous summaries were written by Andrew Kuchling and can be found
at:
New summaries will appear at:
http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/summaries/
and will continue to be archived at Andrew’s site.
Posting distribution (with apologies to mbm)
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A quiet fortnight on python-dev; the conference a week ago is
responsible for some of that, but also discussion has been
springing up on other mailing lists (including the types-sig,
doc-sig, python-iter and stackless lists, and those are just the
ones your author is subscribed to).
* Bug Fix Releases *
Aahz posted a proposal for a 2.0.1 release, fixing the bugs that
have been found in 2.0 but not adding the new features.
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-March/013389.html
Guido’s response was, essentially, “Good idea, but I don’t have
the time to put into it”, and that the wider community would have
to put in some of the donkey work if this is going to happen. Signs
so far are encouraging.
* Numerics *
Moshe Zadka posted three new PEP-drafts:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-March/013435.html
which on discussion became four new PEPs, which are not yet
online (hint, hint).
The four titles are
Unifying Long Integers and Integers
Non-integer Division
Adding a Rational Type to Python
Adding a Rational Literal to Python
and they will appear fairly soon at
http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0237.html
http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0238.html
http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0239.html
http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0240.html
respectively.
Although pedantically falling slightly out of the remit of this
summary, I should mention Guido’s partial BDFL pronouncement:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-March/013587.html
A new mailing list had been setup to discuss these issues:
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-numerics
* Revive the types-sig? *
Paul Prescod has single-handedly kicked the types-sig into life
again.
http://mail.python.org/sigs/types-sig/
The discussion this time seems to be centered on interfaces and
how to use them effectively. You never know, we might get somewhere
this time!
* stackless *
Jeremy Hylton posted some comments on Gordon McMillan’s new
draft of the stackless PEP (PEP 219) and the stackless dev day
discussion at Spam 9.
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-March/013494.html
The discussion has mostly focussed on technical issues; there
has been no comment on if or when the core Python will become
stackless.
* miscellanea *
There was some discussion on nested scopes, but mainly on
implementation issues. Thomas Wouters promised to sort out the
“continue in finally: clause” wart.
Cheers,
M.