QOTW: "I am more amazed that more people do not seem to be aware of the speed of getting an 'idea' up and running in Tcl/Tk. I wonder if with all the media and promotion (about 5 or more glossy mags) of Java, that people are just not aware of how useful Tcl/Tk can be? It seems to me that much of what people use Java for can be done in Tcl/Tk. I found that doing simple things in Tcl/Tk runs so much faster in 'runtime' than Java on my old computer 200MHz." getwell4u http://groups.google.com/[email protected] "With rather more experience than I'd prefer, the problem with Java is really that often not only is it taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut, it's a red inflatable squeaky sledgehammer with a picture of a cartoon character on it..." Donal K. Fellows http://groups.google.com/[email protected] "If so many people are interested in a working expect on windows with all the features, why hasn't anyone contracted with ActiveState to have them create it or done it themselves?" David Gravereaux Proceedings of the 3rd European Tcl/Tk user meeting are now avail- able! Many thanks to Michael Haschek for putting them online: http://www.t-ide.com/tcl2002e.html http://groups.google.com/[email protected] Here's a challenge: figure out which Tcl programmer most deserves an Active Award. Voting for one of John Almirante Vincent Darley Kevin B. Kenny Richard Suchenwirth Jean-Claude Wippler closes 17 July 2002. http://www.ActiveState.com/ActiveAwards2002 New TIP: #105 "Add Prefix Matching for Switch" http://purl.org/tcl/tip/105.html Discussion http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e6dd2061fb93e67d Zoran Vasiljevic explains inter-thread communication techniques: http://groups.google.com/[email protected] Don Porter talks about recent changes in the msgcat package: http://groups.google.com/[email protected] Radical Language Modification: George Peter Staplin describes an experiment that adds type-checking to Tcl. Many comments follow. http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=3D1F57A7.9E1FCD55%40XMission.com George Howlett explains how to link BLT vectors and C arrays, and provides sample code to do so: http://groups.google.com/[email protected] Tcl/Tk Testimonial: "I will be taking a more seriously look into Tcl/Tk. It seems that Tcl/Tk does 'multi-platform' write once and run everywhere better than Java without being too slow on older computers." http://groups.google.com/[email protected] Thanks to Arjen Markus for this summary: A fruitful two weeks on the Wiki, judging from the number of pages that have changed. In these two weeks in Europe there was the Third Tcl/Tk User meeting, with lots of interesting stuff, http://wiki.tcl.tk/3043 including live chats and real beer. Thanks to Michael Haschek. Let us try to group all the information: General: - Scripted documents are the subject of http://wiki.tcl.tk/3659 what they are and how they relate to other things not Tcl. - The wishlist for Tcl 9.0 is growing - catch up on the latest items, at http://wiki.tcl.tk/883 - Those great extensions and applications sometimes get orphaned, for various reasons. The orphanage is there to find them new maintainers, http://wiki.tcl.tk/3587 Interesting user-interface items: - Creating widgets with BWidgets is explained at http://wiki.tcl.tk/1916 - Mike Doyle played with a miniature database manager and came up with a local and a WWW one, http://wiki.tcl.tk/3610 http://wiki.tcl.tk/3636 - In need for multibyte-multilingual input? Here is "taiku", http://wiki.tcl.tk/3145 Open database connection (ODBC) is discussed at http://wiki.tcl.tk/2151 in relation to "tclodbc". Lots of information for the programmer: - Object orientation is a recurring theme http://wiki.tcl.tk/970 lists a lot of the Tcl solutions. - You may add a few discusions about integrated development environments, http://wiki.tcl.tk/3599 - How to combine Tcl/Tk and an application in C? http://wiki.tcl.tk/3474 lists various approaches. Techniques for manipulating text: - The doctools documentation tools are described in some detail at http://wiki.tcl.tk/3054 but see the links in that page. - tDOM, http://wiki.tcl.tk/1948 is an extension that deals with XML, XPath with a speed that no one should be ashamed of. - Talking of XML, why not try TclSOAP? http://wiki.tcl.tk/1753 might interest you as well. Cool algorithms: - You can build a decision tree, from the roots up, by listing a couple of facts, http://wiki.tcl.tk/3563 - Not only big trees can be built in Tcl, you can go down to the individual bits as well http://wiki.tcl.tk/3331 - And should you need more, take a look at the gems in this page, http://wiki.tcl.tk/918 Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://wiki.tcl.tk/0 For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://wiki.tcl.tk/969 ActiveState Tools maintains a Cookbook of Tcl recipes http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <[email protected]> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.
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